Guest 671- Registered: 4 May 2008
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13 February 2011
13:5092490Interesting point Howard, the question about how much local employement Hadlow would bring to this area, has gone un-answered so far? Perhaps Paul(watty) could reply to that one?
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13 February 2011
15:2392497The Hadlow proposition is currently in the pot for the first round of the Regional Growth Fund. Decisions awaited .
The job figures peaked at about 1500.
The coalfield regeneration fund is virtually defunct having been subsumed into HCA mainstream funding.
I don't have detailed answers so please don't probe further.
What I can say is that the bid was supported by public & private sectors & heavily endorsed.
Endorsements included the Coalfield Community grouping now renamed the Alliance.
I wrote to Ministers this week pushing the case in view of the Pfizer announcement.
Watty
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13 February 2011
15:4092506What is HCA Paul? I hate all these TLAs.
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13 February 2011
15:4392508Homes & Communities Agency , funder of housing & regeneration projects, i.e. Connaught Barracks.
Sorry about acronym but it is an awfully long title.
Watty
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13 February 2011
16:5692515Paul,
Thanks for info, does the employment figure reflect on construction only,short term, what are employment figures when/ if, college is operational, long term?
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13 February 2011
17:2992516Gary, read my first response.
Watty
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14 February 2011
10:2392564Paul.
I did.
We have not been successful in obtaining details. You can't blame me for trying, I am concerned as to what is going to happen at Fowlmead, with £19 million of Coalfield Regeneration monies already been spent on the site, local people are now worried they are going to lose it?
Perhaps you could inform me of where we could get hold of the details of Hadlows Proposal?
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Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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14 February 2011
11:3792574Anyone with sufficient intellectual stamina should read this article about the Big Society and spending cuts:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/the-big-society-innovation-or-slogan-2208494.html
PG.
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Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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14 February 2011
13:4392580I heard on todays news that a 100 trainee RAF pilots are to be dismissed as there are insufficient planes for them to fly.Secondly the cuts in the forces hardware means that 18 billion ponds worth of planes,ships,vehicles etc are to be scrapped.
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Brian Dixon
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14 February 2011
17:4792600if thats happening i can only see the scrap merchants rubbing there hands with glee along with a nice profit.
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14 February 2011
18:3492608Gary,
Try Hadlow themselves, it's their project.
It is in their business plan for the year I believe.
I don't expect them to give you commercially sensitive material, of course, just the concepts.
As I pointed out in a previous posting your colleagues from the Coalfield Community have endorsed the proposals and written an endorsement as part of the project bid. They have been to the site twice in the last six weeks & are very excited by the concept.
Eoin Watts from Derbyshire is their current Chairman.
It is also supported by the local community group I understand,Ann Dene is the contact.
Watty
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14 February 2011
20:2392621Thanks Paul, i will follow up on that

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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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21 February 2011
13:2493629just been reading up on how k.c.c. will handle the £95,000,000 budget shortfall.
they will increase by £6 million, i assume this will be extra charges for swimming pools, leisure centres and such like.
efficiency savings of £.39 million throught having less staff and better procurement.
using reserves of £.15 million.
policy changes £.35 million(i have no idea what that means)
at present they subsidise 221 bus routes to the tune of £.600,000 they will continue doing this until the end of ths year, then it will be up to community and voluntary bodies to take them over.
the concessionary fare holders will have to use them after 9.30 am instead of the current 9.00 am, the saving again will be £.600.000.
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23 February 2011
06:3093859Despite Tory promises ore than 50,000 jobs are disappearing from the NHS, according to freedom of information responses, which reveal for the first time the extent of cuts by local health trusts struggling to save £20bn from their budgets.
The survey, by the union-funded website False Economy, represents the most up-to-date picture of the effects of efficiency savings in the NHS and reveals that in England alone, 24,000 posts will be lost in hospitals, another 10,000 will go in primary care trusts and 6,000 will disappear from mental health trusts.
They include doctors, nurses and dentists as well as administrative positions, undermining government pledges to protect frontline services.
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Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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23 February 2011
09:5293871Problem is that it is the administrators who recommend to boards where the cuts should come. Turkeys don't usually vote for Christmas.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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23 February 2011
14:0793896There are lies damn lies and Trade Union supported campaign websites....
I have read today a Spectator report on this '50,000' job cut claim and it might be best to simply paste in a single paragraph....
""""".....But tug a little, and the numbers unravel. One of the key points is made by False Economy themselves: that "most of the cuts are likely to be achieved through natural wastage" - in other words, by people moving on, or retiring, of their own accord.......""""
Thats right - natural wastage, not redundancies.
I do not know whether the 'False Economy' website is issuing 'False Statistics' or not but but certainly Marek, my old mate, you, without actually telling fibs, is trying to infer a rather worse scenario than is actually happening. There is a difference between redundancies forced by cuts and allowing natural wastage to take its toll.
Remember there are no actual cuts in the overall NHS budget and any so called cuts are changes in spending priorites. If reduced admin is releasing funds to be spent on front-line healthcare then that must be a good and not a bad thing.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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23 February 2011
14:1793898Further to the above and on the same subject the following graphic shows what has happened to jobs in the NHS since may.
Says it all really.