Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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" SIR - Beware statistics ("British women outlived by Slovenians", report, March 13).
A few months ago an eminent Swedish professor of statistics with a dry sense of humour made a television programme on statistics. In it, he pointed out that in Sweden, the average number of legs was 1.99 recurring, as some people had only one leg and others had none. This meant, he pointed out with a straight face, that in Sweden, the majority of the population had an above average number of legs.
Brian Clark
Teignmouth, Devon "
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Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Does the vandalism of the tram shelter figure in these figures?
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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good point it would not have been reported to the police, only to the council.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Surely the councils have a policy of reporting incidents of vandalism to the police?
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i think it could be a case of everyone thinking that someone has reported it. when i took the pic of the latest vandalism my first thought was don't call the police.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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So how can the police combat such low level crime? Unless they are psychic of course.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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come on peter you know the score, a week later an officer calls at your house then asks questions, writes your answers down in long hand taking an eternity to do so, after that you hear no more.
they are hardly going to send their top detectives out on such things.
Andy B
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I agree with Keith in post 14.The public have become so lacking faith in the police that so many crimes go unreported.Far too many getting away with little or no punishment for crimes commited that many are saying "whats the point".
Brian Dixon
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its not just lacking faith andy,apathy has set in,report somthing to the police they turn up 8 hours or more later,ask a few dumb questions give you a crime number.then bugger off never to be seen again.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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spot on brian the only benefit is getting a crime number for the insurance claim.
Jan Higgins
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The impression given is the police only tend to investigate "proper" crime the less important (to some) are given lip service and that is all. A good example are the well over the top drunks and nightclubers who used to be arrested for being drunk and disorderly when I was young, I think we must all have seen the TV programmes where they are now just told to go home.
I suspect part of the problem is the police just do not have sufficient resources or the inclination when the courts so often just dish out repeated slaps on the wrist penalties to the same old faces.
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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probably the lack of cells to bung them in,due to police stations closing due to goverment cut backs.
Andy B- Location: dover
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An example of the public not bothering to report crimes.A few years ago,a friend of mine had his car vandelised.It was keyed badly along most of one side.Up to a dozen more in the same street were also badly damaged,either keyed or broken mirrors,some with both.The damage probably amounted to £1000s.His car alone would have cost over a £1000 to have the damage put right.The offender was caught by cctv and said he was badly drunk and couldnt remember doing any of it.The punishment was an £80 fine for public order offence and that was that.Nothing more,.
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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What should have been done AndyB?
All the pubs and other places selling intoxicating liquor all along his path before he damaged the cars should have been closed down?
The consumption of alcohol should have been outlawed?
That 'rivets' on jeans should be banned? [Think of a drunk reeling along a pavement sliding along the sides of parked cars.]
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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do you honestly think that an 80 quid fine fits the offence tom?
Guest 868- Registered: 25 Jan 2013
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Wot no Alexander policy on crime ?
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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I have to say yes Andy. The actual offence being a matter of Public Order. Had the facts fitted a charge of criminal damage the punishment would have been more severe.
It's a wonder anybody derives satisfaction from the process of criminal law. Here damage was done, the felon identified and arrested and charged and convicted, and still this is not enough apparently. The fact is that 'vengeance' is not law.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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hang on tom, people had a lot of damage done to their cars and the culprit has got clean away without recompensing them.
Andy B- Location: dover
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Tom,it wasnt a drunk just rolling past cars on his way home.The soft,rounded rivets on his jeans did not inflict the damage.I saw the car myself.The damage was done with a sharp ended object.Car paint is surprisingly tough and these scratches were down to the metal.Not the sort of damage you would inflict with rivets on jeans.Police believed the damage was done with either a screwdriver,a penknife,or even doorkeys.Maybe had it been your car you would have been satisfied with the outcome?
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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It is difficult to know quite what to say.
BUT!!
Was the culprit charged with criminal damage?
[Is there a web link available to the story?]
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