Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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1 February 2011
00:2390918Vic, the English Channel is to the South of England, starting after the Straits of Dover. To the North is the North Sea. This latter, in olden days, was called the German Ocean. The English Channel, in the past, was also called an Ocean, but I can't remember now which name it had.
Brian Dixon
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1 February 2011
06:3490922and not forgetting before it became a channel it was a land mass conneting us to mainland europe.the land mass stated at or around southhampton right round to ipswich.it was a deep forrested valley with settlements dotted around.
1 February 2011
11:3890950Alexander is correct and has obviously done his homework
The name "English Channel" has been widely used since the early 18th century, possibly originating from the designation "Engelse Kanaal" in Dutch sea maps from the 16th century onwards. It has been known as the "British Channel". Prior to then it was known as the British Sea, and it was called the "Oceanus Britannicus" by the 2nd century geographer Ptolemy. The same name is used on an Italian map of about 1450 which gives the alternative name of "canalites Anglie" - possibly the first recorded use of the "Channel" designation.
I am fascinated by this stretch of water and often wonder what secrets it holds in its murky depths. And of course Brian is right too, we were once joined with France, the history of that too is so interesting. So you see Vic, it was once an ocean
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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1 February 2011
12:5890969Mr Dunbar,nice to see you have got here at last,I have been waiting for you.
Go back to post 15and it said"The Engish Ocean as it is today" and it is not a Ocean it is a Channel, in my eyes it has never been a ocean it does run into two oceans, and I
never said it did not.
Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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1 February 2011
13:5190978The Channel is a mere river and the cliffs being the opposite banks !!
Been nice knowing you :)
1 February 2011
15:0490985Hello Paul. Like your definition lol Very good lol.
Off topic a little, I want another copy of your book for a friend of mine but Suusex book shop have sold out - do you know where else I can get one?
Vic, it makes no difference if you believe it or not, the facts are there concerning the English Channel. Alexander has researched and knows what he is talking about and I too have read up on the subject and my quote was from history.
I seem to remember that you had an ongoing argument about the name of Dover on this very forum, same thing really. You seem to want to argue over everything, which is your right I suppose.
I joined the forum to talk to like minded Dover loving people not to argue.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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1 February 2011
16:1691001Well that is easy Done Mr Dunber do not do it. There that was not hard was it.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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1 February 2011
16:3091004you were unlucky alf, they had a few copies there on saturday.
have you tried smith's?
Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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1 February 2011
18:1291020WH Smith had them last time I looked, but I have sold out of my copies at the moment!
Been nice knowing you :)
Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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1 February 2011
18:3091021Save the research, it is all on Wikipedia !!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_ChannelBeen nice knowing you :)
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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1 February 2011
18:4991026Well there you have it, never was never will be a Ocean
Jan Higgins
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1 February 2011
19:2791033Names change over a period of time for goodness sake, this subject is not worth argueing over.
It used to be called an ocean back in the year dot, we all know what is meant and how it is known now that is the main thing.
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Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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1 February 2011
20:1291054Vic, well there you have it, Paul's link clearly reads that the English Channel was called: Oceanus Britannicus! Meaning British Ocean.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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1 February 2011
21:0691062we seem to have reached an impasse here, some say english or german channel, british ocean and others.
after some thought i have reached a decision that a compromise is needed, from now on it will be referred to as the "belgian sea".
that will keep everyone happy.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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1 February 2011
21:2891068Sea yes,Ocean never
Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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1 February 2011
21:5591078I call it Derek !!
Been nice knowing you :)
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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1 February 2011
23:1291090The German Ocean was the name given to the North Sea centuries ago. The English Channel never had the name German. It was called variously British and English.
1 February 2011
23:4091100Well Alexander, we know we're right so let Vic live in his little dream world. He will never admit that he's wrong anyway, from what I've been told lol.
Interesting stuff there and thank you Paul for the link. (will look in Smiths for your book next time I'm in town).
Won't be about tomorrow because I'm taking a trip on the Spirit of Britain across the ocean to France, hope the weather is kind to us
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Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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2 February 2011
10:1991120i will say I am wrong if i am wrong but in this case folks I AM RIGHT.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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2 February 2011
11:4591146right vic your wrong.and two wrongs dont make a right ok.