Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
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Dover Pilot wrote:I am getting fed up with people saying the problem is panic buying or the media. Most people just want fuel to get to work and get on with their lives and the situation is not getting any better in the south east.
I agree most people do just want fuel for work plus other important reasons but there is no need to drive round with a full tank while others go without or struggle to get some.
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ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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Jan Higgins wrote:I wonder why there is still a shortage of fuel in London and the South East when the rest of the UK are ok, preferential treatment maybe.
I wonder why there is no fuel shortage in Northern Ireland and no problems with CO2 either.
Bob Whysman
- Registered: 23 Aug 2013
- Posts: 1,938
ray hutstone wrote:I wonder why there is no fuel shortage in Northern Ireland and no problems with CO2 either.
A bit far to go just to substantiate a claim or score a few points Ray but possibly the reports could have been hearsay or maybe some hack who thought that they were being clever. Don’t believe all that you read or hear just to demonstrate your feelings over a democratic vote which some like to suggest is the only cause of problems that the U.K. is having regarding fuel supplies.
There doesn’t appear to be much of a shortage in my neck of the woods….in East Sussex. The local Tesco had a queue which stretched for about 800 yards or so this morning . As I was passing the BP garage just around the corner in the other direction I noticed that there was no panic buying queue.
I was able to drive on their forecourt in less than 5 minutes and there were no restrictions on the amount that you could purchase either.
Do nothing and nothing happens.
Captain Haddock
- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 8,100
Fuel update for London and the South East from the Petrol Retailers Association: 52% of the sites surveyed have both grades of fuel available, 18% have only one grade and 20% are dry.
https://t.co/3iaX1kKlXn"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
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Button
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 22 Jul 2016
- Posts: 3,057
The remaining 10% have put diesel in the petrol tank...
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The Gov- Registered: 24 May 2020
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You may joke Button. But I have seen this so many times
ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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Bob Whysman wrote:A bit far to go just to substantiate a claim or score a few points Ray but possibly the reports could have been hearsay or maybe some hack who thought that they were being clever. Don’t believe all that you read or hear just to demonstrate your feelings over a democratic vote which some like to suggest is the only cause of problems that the U.K. is having regarding fuel supplies.
There doesn’t appear to be much of a shortage in my neck of the woods….in East Sussex. The local Tesco had a queue which stretched for about 800 yards or so this morning . As I was passing the BP garage just around the corner in the other direction I noticed that there was no panic buying queue.
I was able to drive on their forecourt in less than 5 minutes and there were no restrictions on the amount that you could purchase either.
Nothing to do with cheap points, Bob. It's a fact that has been well covered in the quality press. You might like to do some research before jumping to conclusions?
It equally is not about my my feelings on a 'democratic' vote. We could argue about the validity of a slim margin of public opinion on a vote held 5 years ago, but that's not the point in question. It's about my concern for the harm being done to this country not by Brexit per se but by the hard Brexit forced upon us by the charlatans and mountebanks running this country.
The reasons N.Ireland has been unaffected are alluded to in the report below from the hugely biased (in your view, no doubt) Belfast Telegraph.
I've attached on link below. There are literally dozens more out there if you care to look.
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/petrol-shortages-northern-ireland-missed-out-on-fuel-crisis-but-could-now-see-prices-rocket-40900878.htmlWeird Granny Slater
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 7 Jun 2017
- Posts: 3,070
Dover Pilot wrote:I am getting fed up with people saying the problem is panic buying or the media.
Gerald:
I think all right-thinking people in this country are sick and tired of being told that ordinary, decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired.
All:
Hear, hear...
Gerald:
I'm certainly not! And I'm sick and tired of being told that I am.
Chair:
Lady Patrick-Jones?
Lady Patrick-Jones:
Well, I meet a lot of people and I'm convinced that the vast majority of wrong-thinking people are right.
Chair:
Well, we seem to have a consensus there.
Sorry, couldn't help it.
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Button- Location: Dover
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Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
- Registered: 7 Jun 2017
- Posts: 3,070
Is that diesel? I've only got half a tank, and some jerry cans under the sofa.
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Reginald Barrington
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 17 Dec 2014
- Posts: 3,257
An interesting piece that gives a lot of information and facts regarding the driver shortage.
That it isn't just brexit or covid or (.Insert own.)
Primarily though it shows its been on the cards for a long time (pre-Brexit) and that the government have been forewarned and haven't acted.
Personally I lay a lot of responsibility at the feet of Blair (remember the degree in David Beckham!)
https://www.thegrocer.co.uk/supply-chain/the-real-causes-of-the-hgv-driver-shortage-and-why-we-cant-blame-it-all-on-brexit/659841.articleArte et Marte
Button- Location: Dover
- Registered: 22 Jul 2016
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#31: Interesting article overall, I thought. What I'd like to know, however, is what is meant by 'EU HGV drivers', as appears in ONS figures. Were they just drivers from the EU who worked for UK hauliers?
Or were they also drivers who worked for EU-based hauliers that at the time were permitted to operate in the UK?
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Karlos- Location: Dover
- Registered: 1 Oct 2012
- Posts: 2,545
Have heard this afternoon that the panic buying has started. Queues for fuel in Thanet
Matey
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 11 Oct 2021
- Posts: 178
Yes, Tesco was ridiculous this afternoon as was sainsbury in ashford. Queues for half a mile. Must be mad,
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ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
- Posts: 2,158
Matey wrote:Yes, Tesco was ridiculous this afternoon as was sainsbury in ashford. Queues for half a mile. Must be mad,
Looks like the price will only continue to rise. Who can blame people for trying to save a bob or 2.
victor matcham- Registered: 5 Oct 2021
- Posts: 1,075
Cost of fuel on the m/ways have put a stop to us going to see the family some I have not seen to two years or more ,but the war has made it that way,lets hope it is over very soon without to much of lost of life, on both sides.
Andy B
- Location: dover
- Registered: 10 Nov 2012
- Posts: 1,818
I had to go to Hastings today and was expecting most garages to have big queues or run dry but all on the way just trading as normal.
Karlos- Location: Dover
- Registered: 1 Oct 2012
- Posts: 2,545
Tesco has run out of fuel. Don't panic. Don't panic.
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
they had some this morning around 0730.
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 8,100
Went to Thanet this afternoon.
Fuel stations at both Tesco and Sainsbury Westwood Cross completely closed as was Tesco Manston Road.
Got some petrol after queuing at Richborough (which had no diesel).
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
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(Not my real name.)