Ross Miller
- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
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Yes JB another self congratulatory piece from the master of puff and self promotion.
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Weird Granny Slater
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 7 Jun 2017
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Farage's monomania would be touching were he just our old grandpa dribbling away in his chair by the kitchen stove. But this corner would have more respect for his large mouth were he to put his salty platform to some other use by loudly protesting the fast disappearance of our English liberties under Tory rule. His notable silence must be either because he never really valued them in the first place, or because he's simply too dim to realise what's happening at home. A few blokes crossing the channel in dinghies pales in comparison.
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John Buckley
- Registered: 6 Oct 2013
- Posts: 615
Think that’s a tad harsh granny, especially when you talk about “ English liberties”. Over the years he’s done more than most to try and protect our sovereignty from being eroded by that bunch of elites in Brussels ( don’t expect the remoaners on here to agree with that though )
“Monomania” or not, it’s an issue that needs to be reported on and addressed, and admittedly whilst it may be a case of a “ few blokes in dinghies “ at the moment, if things continue as they are unabated then the current situation is likely to seriously escalate.
But point taken, you just don’t like the guy!
Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
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John Buckley wrote:Over the years he’s done more than most to try and protect our sovereignty from being eroded by that bunch of elites in Brussels... it’s an issue that needs to be reported on and addressed... you just don’t like the guy!
I'll take your points in perverse order, JB, if you don't mind. I've no opinion on Farage 'the guy' as such, since I don't know him. And as the government have made sure that we'll never see again anything remotely resembling the kind of pubs we used to know just 3 months ago, it's unlikely I'll be having a chinwag over a pint or two with him in order make his acquaintance. I'm less interested in his id than I am in his ideas in any case.
I don't disagree with your second point.
I'll demur silently on your 'more than most' claim. But he needs to see the priorities and get a sense of proportion, and quick, as it's pointless simply to swap EU shackles for UK manacles. Despite his sizeable gob, his gift of the gab, and his public voice, as far as I'm aware he's not uttered a peep on the single most wide-ranging bloating of State power and circumscription of individual liberties in our lifetimes outside China, the Soviet Union and North Korea. As I suggested, maybe he never much cared for them anyway. Or, and here's a thought, perhaps his 'pact' with the Tories back in December contained a cork big enough to stop his mouth.
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John Buckley- Registered: 6 Oct 2013
- Posts: 615
Wonder how many were picked up mid channel today?
But hey, don’t worry, I’m sure that we are having yet more meaningful discussions with our French counterparts to find a solution, I mean, after all these years there surely has to be one, right?
Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
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Have you noticed how most of these important talky dudes in various states of imprisonment position themselves when self-filming in front of objects designed to give 'weight' to their good selves' splendid intellects? Here's Farage slap in the middle of his books - Churchill biog turned cover-to-camera so we don't miss it; and Abbott with predecessor Liberals Robert Menzies and John Howard, up there like the devil's horns. So, as a guarantee of my authority on all subjects ever raised anywhere at any time in all the world, I've stuck a pic of one of my very own bookcases over on the left there (self-made, too). Admittedly, that one is mainly fiction. Still, from now on, when you see my bookcase, you'll know you're getting wise words, perspicacity, reason, truthfulness, and many other very good things of that sort. Trust me, I know.
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ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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Abbott once said that he believed that the UK should be leading Europe rather than leaving it. This was early in the lead up to the referendum. Then he had a furtive meeting with laughing boy Boris and changed his tune completely.
John Buckley- Registered: 6 Oct 2013
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Weird Granny Slater wrote:Have you noticed how most of these important talky dudes in various states of imprisonment position themselves when self-filming in front of objects designed to give 'weight' to their good selves' splendid intellects? Here's Farage slap in the middle of his books - Churchill biog turned cover-to-camera so we don't miss it; and Abbott with predecessor Liberals Robert Menzies and John Howard, up there like the devil's horns. So, as a guarantee of my authority on all subjects ever raised anywhere at any time in all the world, I've stuck a pic of one of my very own bookcases over on the left there (self-made, too). Admittedly, that one is mainly fiction. Still, from now on, when you see my bookcase, you'll know you're getting wise words, perspicacity, reason, truthfulness, and many other very good things of that sort. Trust me, I know.
I guess, rightly or wrongly, that’s what the majority of politicians do as far as setting up an interview “background”, although to be fair Nigel has previously made it common knowledge of his admiration for Churchill .
As for your books Granny, the photo is not really that clear, but I think that I can make out “Lady Chatterly’s lover” ( second shelf up in the middle? )
Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
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Impressively powerful specs, JB; but not powerful enough. Definitely Lawrence; not Chatterley, but Sons & Lovers and the Virgin & the Gipsy; the Rainbow isn't showing.
'Second shelf up in the middle?' could be a sub-Chatterley line though, in a bishop to actress kind of way.
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Captain Haddock
- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 8,100
Around five boats carrying migrants have been brought to Dover so far this morning.
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
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Ross Miller- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
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And?
According to stats from both the Home Office and the French government approx 72% of all attempted crossings are stopped by the French authorities and the individuals returned to France - but of course you wont find this in a UK paper etc as it doesn't fit the agenda
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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So 72% of attempts don't leave France? So bloody what? 28% presumably do.
Do you really imagine if groups of swarthy young men were dragging large RIBs down to the Kent coast on a daily basis no-one would notice (especially if our French 'partners' had paid us theme on millions to stop it?)
Get real.
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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*tens of.
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Ross Miller- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
- Posts: 3,706
How exactly do you stop it?
The same way HMG has stopped people going out during the last few weeks? Or how police forces globally have stopped drug importation and distribution?
The sad truth is the determination of migrants and people traffickers to succeed is greater than ours.
My point is that people like you and Farage bang on about how the French should stop it but dont seem to like it when you are told what they are doing; and what they are doing is never enough.
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Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,879
Ross Miller wrote: what they are doing is never enough.
So true but then unsurprisingly the French want shot of them, so we are in a no win situation and these boats will keep coming.
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Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
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On looking into Richard Morrison's translation of Stratagemata by the Roman civil engineer and military strategist Frontinus I came across this passage in Morrison's dedication to Henry VIII, the contents of which, with all due respect to their great differences in rank and numbers of wives, I think might equally be addressed to the redoubtable Mr Farage:
‘Lorde, howe may al englyshemen reioyce, that your grace neyther spareth, to vysite with your owne eyes, ye ruinous places of the see quostes, by whiche our enemies myght sodeynly inuade vs, neyther yet letteth, to worke with your own handes, continually manegynge tooles, continually inuentyng newe sortes of weapons... As god helpe me, I can not see, whyche waye to wysshe greatter pleasure, greatter comforte, to all englyshe men, than that they all myght se, howe your grace spendeth all the hole day...’
Of course, Henry, despite his many military disasters in northern France (perhaps he didn't read his Frontinus), managed to hold on to 'the brightest jewel in the English crown' (Calais, that is), but then his bloody daughter (yes her, not the other one) went and lost it. How different things might have been...
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Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
oh come on we can do with a few romans to fix our roads properley
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Record Breakers!
166 migrants arrived today in eight boats - a record for a single day. It brings the total for 2020 to at least 1,929 people - believed to be higher than the figure for the whole of last year.
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
could do with a few fruit and vegtable pickers keith.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940