Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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Yea, right...
"The report considered local authority-run centres, privately owned ones and those run by the NHS. It differentiated between assessment and treatment centres and secure units meant for longer stays.
An analysis of the inspections of assessment and treatment centres - of the kind operated by the private company Castlebeck at Winterbourne View - revealed a stark divide between state-owned and commercial hospitals."
Full report here...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/jun/25/half-care-homes-fail-standardsIgnorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Brian Dixon
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yes peter,but there is a lot of waffle coming down from high.

Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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With every cut being introduced,out of the 90 % or 75 % of deficit cuts....still to come..they hit the vulnerable.
This one is another knee jerk ill-conceived policy that will have to be a `U` turn due to the enormous knock on damage that will result
and has,yet again, not been considered.
It also appears to be a sop to his right wingers to regain their support.
All Cameron`s cuts hit the people who can ill afford to take another hit which reduces their already limited buying power.
He says the nation desperately needs the £ 2 billion it will save ....but he continues to ignore the £ 7 Billion of the people
who are avoiding paying their tax who can afford to pay.
Keith Sansum1
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what makes me think we have visited this one for some time.
only by removing cameron will we see a change in direction
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Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Keith, Dave is trying to get to the roots of the problem.
If people start signing on as a matter of principle at the age of 16, or 18, then something is awfully wrong.
Until now. local government have too often ducked their way out of any responsibility regards the local unemployment situation. See Dover District...
Keith Sansum1
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alexander
throwing 4 million on the dole is hardly likely to help
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Guest 756- Registered: 6 Jun 2012
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Ah, thanks Keith but you know I love to play!!!
Barry you are an anachist after all! It seems you would be in favour of renationalization? And they told me you're a true blue, gosh how gulliable am I .
Keith Sansum1
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lesley
think barryw may well reply to that lol

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Guest 756- Registered: 6 Jun 2012
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Does he walk with a limp Keith, only judging by his support for the government on health, education, welfare and benefits it would seem that some of his statements could be seen as "shooting himself in the foot"?
Keith Sansum1
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I'm sure barry will answer for himself
he tried to invite me in for a coffee recently
picture that if you will lol
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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barry invited you in for a coffee keith?
i am getting this picture that you used to see in old films, with people distracting each other whilst switching cups around.
Brian Dixon
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was a biscuit attached to the coffee.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#27 Very strange Lesley. Ignore the senseless waffle from other people
Anarchists believe in no government, I did not say no government, just a small government - the way I said.
Brian Dixon
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barry you love to waffle on,as an anarchist i do belive that we have only a small u-turn goverment.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Barry, without government supervision, employers could drag us into the Industrial Revolution. They did it once...
We workers need to make sure our rights are respected, so we must continue appealing to Gov. to see to it that we get a fair deal. We must question everything we feel is unfair: banker's super-bonuses, the super-rich getting richer, the rich getting benefits...
The Government must make these people buckle down, after all, we're all in this together.
It's important that we keep getting involved, putting our nose in, asking questions, and generally keep on telling Gov. to do the right thing.
As a commoner, I believe in the House of Commons, and the original meaning of Commonwealth, an English concept of the 16th and 17th centuries, which, however, never was achieved owing to the greed of the aristocrats.
Brian Dixon
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guy fawks all is forgiven,please come back and try again.

Keith Sansum1
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Lesley;
told you, now you have upset the geezer lol
but never mind
alexander;
do you realy believe we live in a fair society?
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Guest 1694- Registered: 24 Feb 2016
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To paraphrase Barry - "Govt should provide a legislative framework conducive to community action on its own behalf and otherwise butt-out, except for Defence, Justice, Health and Education." Although just possibly Barry would leave it at Defence and Justice.
Unfortunately, we are not all model citizens with a yen to provide additional service to our communities without prioritising personal desires. So the withdrawal of Government from large swathes of what is currently the public domain when there are a very limited number of service oriented private individuals who have the respect of their peers and community and can lead, source sufficient private funding (or start/run businesses where the profits are reserved for community benefit) and successfully challenge the entrenched positions of 'the mighty', will inevitably leave many vulnerable people, well, more vulnerable and less well looked after.
As you all know, I'm very much in favour of communities being able to form mutuals with business and workers to democratise capital flows through the acquisition of assets that have a major impact on quality of life, jobs, training and regeneration potential in their community. However, even such a project as we have started here in Dover that is so 'in-keeping' (when I first heard about this 'Big Society' policy and then compared it with the models of ownership and governance that I was describing as an alternative to DHB's scheme, I was greatly encouraged) with what the Prime Minister maintains is the policy closest to his own heart, is a major up-hill struggle through the mires of multiple pieces of unhelpful or outdated legislation and other problems, including an understanding gap, cynicism and apathy. So it is little wonder that the Arch Bish and many like him have started to take such a jaundiced view.
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Well paraphrased Neil - As for Health and Education, I would put it this way, the government should be an enabler ensuring access to all and a high quality threshold, not necessarily a provider. I have often argued for a privatised health service for instance, likewise a voucher system for education.
I start from the basis that government is essentially inefficient and incompetent and the less power we give those out to get power, ie politicians, the better.
It does not mean that everybody has to be a model citizen or get involved but it does mean that everybody is held accountable for their own actions and are expected to take personal responsibility.