Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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It's crunch time. This Monday, Owen Paterson the environment minister will be voting on the
future of our bees. Over 250,000 38 Degrees members have now signed the petition to tell him
to protect our bees and ban the pesticides blamed for killing them. That's 100,000 more in the
last week alone!
There's now a mountain of science and huge weight of public opinion making Owen look completely
isolated. Let's grow the petition and really push him to vote the right way this time.
Please add your name to the petition before Monday's crucial vote:
https://secure.38degrees.org.uk/save-our-beesGuest 715- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Done
Audere est facere.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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i can remember reading a few years back about this problem and the terrible knock on effects, wonder why nothing has been done previously.
Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Ban on bee-harming insecticides would be a mistake, says chief science adviser
Mark Walport's defence came as beekeepers marched on parliament against the government's
opposition to planned ban.
Hundreds of beekeepers and nine major campaigning organisations demand environment minister
Owen Patterson vote in favour of a ban on bee-harming pesticides,
Plans to ban insecticides linked to serious harm in bees across Europe would be a "serious mistake"
and could harm food production, according to the government's chief scientific adviser. Sir Mark
Walport's strident defence of the government's opposition to the proposed ban came on Friday
as hundreds of beekeepers and environmental campaigners marched on parliament in protest
and delivered a petition signed by 2.6 million people to the prime minister at No 10 Downing Street.
"This plan is motivated by a quite understandable desire to save the beleaguered bee and concern
about a serious decline in other important pollinator species,
. But Walport, who is just a month into the job, said the European commission must drop its
proposal to suspend three neonicotinoids from use on flowering crops, such as corn, that bees
feed on: "The consequences of such a moratorium could be harmful to the continent's crop
production, farming communities and consumers."
Supporters of the ban, likely to be passed in a vote on Monday, argue the greater risk to food
production is from the long-term loss of bees. Experts at the European Food Safety Authority
have concluded there is now sufficient evidence to impose a precautionary ban while further research is done.
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
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I suppose the choice is bees versus pesticide use........... I choose bees every time we need them a lot more than extra yield per field.
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Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Petition signed.
Stop the mass poisoning of bees!
Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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# 5.......we do need Bees....
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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News has come through in the recent past, that in some regions of China bees are extinct in whole areas where apples are grown for exportation to the West.
This is because of the pesticides used.
Pollination is now done by hand using buckets and sprinkle-brushes by the Chinese workers on the plantations (not by the worker-bees).
So there we go, the carbon footprint means nothing, orchards in the West are ripped up and outsourced to China, the apples sent over here by container. Unemployment in the West: "couldn't care less" attitude.
Then the West also uses mass pesticides over here, probably "made in China" and very cheap....
Dead bees don't count, they don't vote, for them the war is over!
Our natural process of pollination through bees is being destroyed, nature could become a battlefield of Desolation, destroyed by the greed of the wealthy chemo-lobbies, all to earn a quick buck today and sod tomorrow and the future generations!
Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Elite greedy pigs get everywhere .............
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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The Government is too clownish to protect bees, because it could mean a "fall in the GDP" if the chemo industry sold less mass poisoning substances.
It wouldn't fit in the Chancellor's idiotic plans for GDP growth, his set targets would not be reached!
Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,942
My understanding is the president of the national bees association(or whatever the name is)
is none other david cameron
who admitted at prime ministers questin time last week he had failed in his duties(not the first time)
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Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Perhaps DC thinks that bee workers can work in China for less, hence no need to protect them in England.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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That said, the UK pharma industry has probably decided to outsource the work of bee-workers to the Far East, and import the honey.
Of-course bees will not be able to pollinate the countryside in the UK, but then the Coalition and Labour could go ahead with their plans to cement over all the green areas and woodland with houses and so-by bring the Construction sector up by 1 million workers, and keep the GDP up above zero.
So bee-workers who keep nature in a functional order, and earthworms that keep farm land arable, would be two unwanted factors in the equation. They can work for less in the Far East and containers will bring over the produce.
Simples!
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Didn't British workers end up that way?
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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all simple in your world alexander
but in the real outside world,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
.........you get scewed regulery.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,942
on a bar-b-q??????????????????????????????
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
at the end of the day no bees = no humans.
Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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Spot on Howard.......Last chance to sign up ......Lords decide tomorrow.................
It's crunch time. This Monday, Owen Paterson the environment minister will be voting on the
future of our bees. Over 250,000 38 Degrees members have now signed the petition to tell him
to protect our bees and ban the pesticides blamed for killing them. That's 100,000 more in the
last week alone!
There's now a mountain of science and huge weight of public opinion making Owen look
completely isolated. Let's grow the petition and really push him to vote the right way this time.
Please add your name to the petition before Monday's crucial vote:
https://secure.38degrees.org.uk/save-our-beesGuest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
- Posts: 6,950
Insecticide firms in secret bid to stop ban that could save bees
Last-ditch lobbying to sway vote in Brussels to halt use of killer nerve agents
"Europe is on the brink of a landmark ban on the world's most widely used insecticides, which have increasingly been linked to serious declines in bee numbers. Despite intense secret lobbying by British ministers and chemical companies against the ban, revealed in documents obtained by the Observer, a vote in Brussels on Monday is expected to lead to the suspension of the nerve agents.
Bees and other insects are vital for global food production as they pollinate three-quarters of all crops. The plummeting numbers of pollinators in recent years has been blamed on disease, loss of habitat and, increasingly, the near ubiquitous use of neonicotinoid pesticides.
The prospect of a ban has prompted a fierce behind-the-scenes campaign. In a letter released to the Observer under freedom of information rules, the environment secretary, Owen Paterson, told the chemicals company Syngenta last week that he was "extremely disappointed" by the European commission's proposed ban. He said that "the UK has been very active" in opposing it and "our efforts will continue and intensify in the coming days"..."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2013/apr/28/europe-insecticides-ban-save-bees Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.