Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 6,025
2 January 2011
10:2887234I belive the Town Councillor in question resides in Whitfield .Now do your sums .
Guest 663- Registered: 20 Mar 2008
- Posts: 1,136
2 January 2011
11:3687238Keith for many years you were a good councillor before going on to pastures new, but you are right Gordon will be in touch with paul and has already asked about makeing contributions to this Forum.
Paul gives all colours a fair hearing
Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,942
2 January 2011
13:2387249janet
i understand your wanting to protect our paulb
but no one should be outside of being able to be in the critical spotlight.
like a few other issues i will be watching to see how consistent forumites are including the editor and dep editor when people(and there will be some)slag off gordon.
as for being a cllr, i did my bit for 25 years did what i could in the restraints that are always in place, and of course frustrating part of people playing politics, and selecting/electing the people who are just there for them selves.
jan
i have to commend you in your stand on the town council with ref to the rebels
and long may that continue at least you recall who selected/elected you.
you will recall in a group meeting of labour town cllrs that gordon chaired you had a view not held by the majority and i made sure that your voice was heard as everyone has a right to forward views whether in a majority or not.
as for the forum itself, i think paulb has a big juggling act to take part in, more so because there are a large number of conservative supporters on the forum
thats no bad thing, but can give a slant that the forum all goes along with those views, well i for one dont agree with a lot of them, and was asked to post by paulb and others to even up the debate a bit.
of course the tories had it there own way for a long time and now some forumites who support the tories don't like them being told sorry i don't agree
but disagree when the need arises i will
woops this was only going to be a short reply
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Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
- Posts: 10,540
2 January 2011
16:3887269Keith.
You know PaulB is an old Leftie too (less of the "old" I hear him say), so he will be happy for Gordon to post on here.
What I do hope is that if Gordon does post, people will not be attacking him, but may feel happy to question his policies and politics.
When PaulW posts on here, I would like to see your comments were not pointed at Paul himself, but at his (and mine I guess) policies - although I can't imagine that anyone could rationally argue against the Conservative policies for moving Dover forward and the professional management of Dover District Council.
Roger
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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2 January 2011
16:5787274Sorry Roger I do not see any movment in Dover at this time
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
2 January 2011
16:5887275i doubt that there is any political bias on the forum, people are free to criticise the actions and policies of anyone else.
where the line is drawn is when an individual is singled out for attack.
i think that most of us are eagerly awaiting gordon to join in, whether they support his views or are against them.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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2 January 2011
17:1487281As has been said many times - attack the policy, not the person.
Roger
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 14,118
2 January 2011
17:1787283Well that a new one on me.I have been saying the same thing for years,but that has not stoped the attacks on me.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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2 January 2011
17:1887284There's always an exception Vic.
Roger
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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2 January 2011
17:1987285Thanks for that,I like it .
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,942
2 January 2011
17:2387287howard;
i will eagerly wait and see as this was not the case in the past
and so you saw a ecline in labour persons postings
but im happy if theres consistency
roger
you only have to make the point once lol
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,942
2 January 2011
17:2787289woops to add roger
the list is endless as to why tories should not control DDC
and roger your not consistent
paulw has often attempted tp silence me and been offensive but not heard you sprak out.
realise hes a buddy but you must be consistent
i dont agree with much that barryw posts but when he was given a short holiday by paulb i defnded barryw right to post
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Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
- Posts: 10,540
2 January 2011
17:4487300Could you make a short list of why-nots Keith ?
When PaulW has made a comment about you, it was only because you were being particularly nasty or nauseating and it warranted such a comment back.
There is no one at DDC who has the vision to move Dover forward; I can't imagine anyone on the Labour group negotiating with other local authorities as succesful as Paul also with Government ministers and well as David Cameron.
Roger
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
2 January 2011
19:2087338vic
re;post 48
it is always open season on you, goes with the territory.
you always take it on the chin, a bit like your earlier career.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,942
2 January 2011
19:2887342roger
with regard to local councils in general realy all parties have been doing much the same it's not down to one party, its a very blinkered view if you believe otherwise
i like to have an open mind on the good bad and ugly(wont put names to them lol)
as iv posted before there are a handful of good hard working cllrs on both the two major parties on the district council
as there are a handful of hard working cllrs on the alliance/labour benches
it's all about what you believe in, and im not going to try to convince you otherwise roger, you come from the right of the tory party and that's fine, the same as im realy old labour and a lefty
but realy im out of it all now
just dip in and out when i feel like it and for friends only
not political parties
that said i do want the election of labour persons at every level
i dont hide that
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Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,888
3 January 2011
10:4187425Barry, so far right he nearly falls off the end.
PaulB, to the left
Keith, old labour and likes the last word.
Vic, just likes posting.
The rest of us are middle of the road and normal, she says with tongue firmly in cheek
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,942
3 January 2011
10:4487427jan
noticed you didnt mention many of the other posters
we have
nigel and roger both to the right
bern midde of the road
jan t middle of the road
john g middle of the road
guzzler to the right of maggie lol
theres lots more
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Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 6,025
3 January 2011
10:5887437Where Am I Keith ,swerving from side to side ??
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,942
3 January 2011
11:1087447sue
in the past there has always been this
left or right or even middle of the road tags
i think they have long gone since t blair went for middle england and the tags got lost
as mr cameron is doing the same
think your fairly middle of the road sue
you do sway to the right at times
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Guest 663- Registered: 20 Mar 2008
- Posts: 1,136
3 January 2011
11:2887451Thanks Keith for post 43 its true I know where my loyalty lies and as you very well know its been hard in the past,
Its true we should all be able to take criticism and give it otherwise we should not be doing the job.
PaulB does have to juggle but I think he does it fairly, and by the way we do not always agree