Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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No!
Partly because of what I have given you to peruse...
" It is [therefore] vital that the national authorities in the EU avoid mission-creep, by using the proper instruments for investigation and evidence-gathering, and reserving the warrent for when matters are ready for prosecution. "
And partly because, to question this or any other 'suspect' does not require their presence within a particular jurisdiction. Our own police are for ever flying hither and yon to question individuals, why not the Swedes?
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SWWood- Location: Dover
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Just so I understand this clearly, are you saying that the Supreme Court made the wrong decision?
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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I did cut something from my #21 with the intent to paste it should the point you make be made, David. Alas, the pasting of the link below has lost it. It was only to say that; a court does not make law, a court only answers the question it is asked, and that a court guards it's own jurisdiction by safeguarding the jurisdiction of other courts.
http://www.supremecourt.gov.uk/news/julian-assange-v-swedish-prosecution-authority.html/
As the text under the link above (which deals with the appeal against the previous judgement) makes clear, if only the court had been asked a different question it may have given a different answer.
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SWWood- Location: Dover
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OK, the court may, in different circumstances, come to a different decision. The fact remains that they didn't, so Swedens move to extradite Assange is legal. Why in that case should the U.K. authorities not enforce that extradition?
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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The authorities can do pretty much as they please, they do not seek my permission.
Where sits Justice?
Read this...
"- Sweden has in the recent past violated international treaties in relation to surrendering foreign nationals into US custody to be interrogated and tortured (case of extraordinary rendition, Agiza v. Sweden at the European Court of Human Rights). Furthermore, Amnesty International and the UN Committee against Torture criticised Sweden because it rendered two refugees to the CIA who were then tortured under the Egyptian regime of Hosni Mubarak. (A documentary with the testimony of tortured refugees who had been granted asylum and then rendered to the CIA by Sweden was aired on Swedish television on 5 October 2011."*
...coupled with what we all used to hear about the 'perfectly lawful' shooting of escapees by the guards along the Berlin Wall.
*From...
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SWWood- Location: Dover
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I'm not going to defend Sweden, the United States or anyone else. Their governments are accountable to their own people. My gripe with this case is that the U.K. Government has recieved a lot of criticism for simply upholding it's own laws, and doing so by the book.
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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It does seem that some criticism is justified over the threat to revoke the Diplomatic Status of the Embassy, a very slippery slope.
I suppose the Police presence does go some way to prevent other 'actors' from interfering, and, no matter the cost, this is a good thing.
Any moves by the Swedes to further their investigation of the alleged crimes, by interviewing him at the Embassy, is bound to show-up the whole extradition thing for the sham it is. This leaves only the option of he being put in a Diplomatic body-bag and shipped to his new home.
When all is said and done, Justice must trump Law. We are only human after all.
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Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
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it appears this guy is just trying to avoid any courts whatever the country
more to come on this i think
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Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Keith, he is in effect seeking asylum from Sweden, but my guess is he's asking for political asylum, because of his hacking deeds.
If he has chosen a country that could be prepared to allow him to set up an expertise ring of hackers, this could cause potential fall-out with other countries.
The USA has a lot of soldiers around the world where crisis are, and they lose a lot of men in the process, and this hacker has challenged the USA where he shouldn't have.
If, on the other hand, he were seeking asylum from rape charges, he must obey the Law of Britain, where the courts have ruled that Sweden's extradition request is valid.
When he came here, he knew he would have to obey our laws.
He cannot just leave an embassy and travel to an airport and fly out.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Theres so many implications in this case
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Brian Dixon
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give him the buss fare to heathrow,would be cheaper in the long run.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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He's become a hot potato
