howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Guest 671- Registered: 4 May 2008
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With 200 million to choose from by 2015, the Germans will be spoilt for choice.
"My New Year's Resolution, is to try and emulate Marek's level of chilled out, thoughtfulness and humour towards other forumites and not lose my decorum"
Jan Higgins
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Do you think this is the modern version of Auf Weidersein Pet.
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I try to be neutral and polite but it is hard and getting even more difficult at times.
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Guest 671- Registered: 4 May 2008
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"I've seen the back of Maggies Hand" La La La
"My New Year's Resolution, is to try and emulate Marek's level of chilled out, thoughtfulness and humour towards other forumites and not lose my decorum"
Brian Dixon
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that's not fair what about the unemployed oap's.they need work to
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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more jobs available here if they ship off our young talent to germany brian although knowing our betters they will encourage more from eastern europe to fill any vacancies.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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that's quite possible howard.but it dose exercise the grey cells by traveling around Europe.but you will either get a nice sun tan or wet feet depending what part of Europe you go to.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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I HAD A GREAT TIME WORKING BOTH IN GERMANY AND FRANCE AND WOULD DO IT ALL OVER AGAIN.
Infact we have been back to where I once worked in both Germany and France.It was only afew years ago that I was asked to do just that as you know I was a welder and that does open many doors when you are in your working life,so for young person take up welding get good at it and you will(1) Get good money(2) you will fit in any where in the world,always a job for a welder.
Guest 705- Registered: 23 Sep 2010
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Got to agree with that Vic.
Never give up...
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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interesting that germany and holland couldn't get enough british and construction workers at one time and now germany wants our young unemployed.
yet we get some british employers claiming our workers are bone idle.
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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The mass in flow from the east is all about having workers that work for the minimum wage and say nothing when the boss treats them like sh...
British bosses love it , no need to employ apprentices or train people up,
The labour party become the boss's best friends.
The Germans love British tradesmen, and have no problem paying for them
I have just come of a big job, and all the ceiling where installed by Bulgarians rushing the job on low pay, employed by a British company.
All the British men on the job have flagged up the Structural problems in the work,
The inspectors have condemned it all ,It's all got to come down,
all you people having work by east Europeans need to think on the fact that the men doing the work are on peanuts and the last thing they consider is the building quality
Paint and plaster can cover up a lot, short time
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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that says rather a lot keith, no doubt the people who employed the cowboys will earn out of it then berate british workers for wanting the right pay for the job .
DT1- Location: Dover
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I don't think that any skilled tradesmen deserve to be paid peanuts; real craftsmanship is worth it's weight in gold. That being said, I don't see why the fact that they weren't British has anything to do with the quality of their work.
Surely there are British cowboys too?
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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daz
if they were skilled tradespersons they would not work for 2 quid an hour.
a few years back a site was being worked on locally near me and they brought in young eastern european lads that didn't even have hard hats and actually wore trainers!!
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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I have worked over the UK +overseas take it from me there are good and bad workers in all the EU and outside and most were good.
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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£6 ph, is big money in Bulgaria
They get in quick, get as much money as they can legally or not,
Then a lot go back home to convert there money in to property & land before there country's prices start to lift
These men are living in appalling conditions in the uk,
10 men in 1 flat is common place, confirmed to me by my fireman nephew
It's all about getting as much as they can in as little time ,then back to a better life
Unfortunately its British workers suffering long term as they have no where to go for a quick buck that quadruples on the currency exchange
The gold rush is on for Eastern Europe it will not stop all the time the EU is expanding.
All them that have settled in the uk are in it for the money or because there country's don't want them.
DT1- Location: Dover
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If they are not skilled tradesmen, then surely this has more to do with British employers than it does with the Bulgarian workers?
Keith's example is surely a prime example of a British company doing a bad job?
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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that is the whole point daz, in this case the bulgarian workers are doing what anyone else would do in the same position.
rogue employers feed off of them knowing that they will not answer back.
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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Daren
one factor hardly considered in the public sector.
Profit
DT1- Location: Dover
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It's alright Keith, I have worked in the private sector...I think I understand what you are saying.
My point is that the nationalities of these cowboys is irrelevant. This is a problem of ours and one that is purely about exploitation. These workers you talk about earning £6 an hour are only as short sighted as British workers opting for the same, probably producing the same quality. The more astute workers (of any nationality) would opt for the £5 in Germany and get a trade at the same time?