Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Full time district councillors should be doing that work; and being held accountable if they fail. Parish councillors are totally unaccountable. If you get kicked off a council (the ultimate sanction) you can just be nominated again and there you are back on the council again. Democracy, shemocracy. Alice in Wonderland stuff. No wonder the public are so totally apathetic about local elections.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
- Posts: 2,594
I don't care what they call themselves but below parliament we need 1 level of local govt, probably about 12 offices in a county the size of Kent, 12 councillors in each office.
As it stands in Dover alone we've got dozens, heaven knows what they all do.
I do know actually because I went to a meeting last week, they squabble among themselves like children and achieve nothing
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,888
There are definitely far too many parish councillors for the small area they cover, either less councillors or bigger areas, the same goes for the town.
I more or less agree with Peter's last paragraph#18, that all depends on what one calls local.
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Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 14,118
I agree with this,there are parish councils that could join up with each other,but as parish cllrs do get any payment,I just do not think that the saving would be alot but still agree with the joining up,+it would save me trying to get to 3 meetings in the same night.But I must add that parish councils to work and are needed,most live in the parish that they sit on,and know the area they live in.You must go along to the meetings to see for yourself what goes on.Thank you.The big saving would be if the town council went after all they are a parish council,and the saving would be £600.000+ Again they have a very good working staff,I would not like to see them ;lose their jobs. But do we need the town clark at over £45000 per year.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Vic, they are just talking shops with no powers other than raising money from council taxpayers and spending it on allotments and playing fields.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 14,118
Thats no right or fair Mr Garstin lot more than that,again you do not know,as I said you must go along to the meetings and see for yourself, or better then that join one of them. You just do not hear and never gets in the press what they do. But take it from me they are needed.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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I have been to a few Eythorne PC meetings over the years. Totally pointless.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
parish councils have a very small budget that may get spent on things like village hall repairs, public toilets, playing field, dog waste bins etc that all make life that little bit better for rural communities.
town councils are a completely different issue as politicians get involved and in some cases a power crazed town clerk could wield control.
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
why is that peter,the wrong kind of biscuits.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
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maybe that is why reg didn't bother going?
Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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# 18......almost 100 % with you except EU......must discuss this sometime......
# 20......again almost with you....NB....economies of scale.....except EU.....must discuss this sometime.....
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,888
#27, much the same with Tilmanstone when we lived there plus it was a tight network of cronies back then.
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Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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I can only talk about councils I am on,and the members on all four of them need to be there,they do put alot of time in what they do it not just about having a say at a meeting it is about trying to help and make the parish nice place to live in.I can not add anymore.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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yet another eyesore and encroaching on a churchyard too.
Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
- Posts: 2,594
Don't worry Howard, one of our intrepid councillors will be getting changed in a nearby phone box
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
- Posts: 6,950
Very nice of them to give the cannons a door bell each.
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
its comes and go's howard,has been like for a couple of years.
Guest 652- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
- Posts: 595
These bins have not been emptied for a two or three weeks now, wonder if landlord has paid the bill, if that is overdue they wont get emptied
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
- Posts: 3,370
You haven't seen nothing yet ,after January 2014 a dead horse in the street wouldn't look out of place
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
i thought it was only businesses that paid separately for refuse collections, anyway the problem seems to be spreading.
no problem with dead horses in the street keith, just pop them in the freezer for later.
