Ross Miller
- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
- Posts: 3,707
Sue whilst on an individual representative basis you and others may well do well and right by your constituents, on the wider picture the district has been let down consistently for the last 20 odd years by the collective body politic.
It is time we all started to work collectively and consensually towards a brighter future for Dover and its sister towns, villages and hamlets in the District. We should be as open and informative with each other as is possible so that we all can reach an agreement about the way forward. When I say forward that is forward to the future not the past, we cannot recreate those rose tinted halcyon days of yesteryear, we must think about what we want for the district and grasp the opportunities that present themselves that move us towards that place. We should also ensure we involve willing and able local groups when they present themselves rather than taking their idea and then excluding them, it is only through inclusion that we will build a community that cares about itself and respects itself and others.
"Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die today." - James Dean
"Being deeply loved by someone gives you strength,
While loving someone deeply gives you courage" - Laozi
Right on Ross! Totally with you!
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
susan
a couple of points here.
1) the fair is policed by a private security firm.
2) the family days at the museum are totally due to the excellent staff there.
incidentally, i thought that you were not in charge of that anymore.
Guest 648- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Yes the fair is policed by a private firm .My point is that where large crowds are .to gather it has to be policed .Someone has to foot the bill
Yes the Musuem is under my remitt still I have to keep an eye on their budgets and set policy .
If budgets are cut then i have to ensure the musuem does not suffer .
I dont want to see the Musuem suffer if Anti Social behaviour accurs in the market Square .It took a long time to get it repainted and flood lighting installed
Guest 644- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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You know I was thinking about the screen issue earlier and it suddenly struck me is that we are on the verge of being given for peanuts a positive addition to our town that people might actually enjoy. Yet there are one or two persons in 'power' intent on blocking this based on an outmoded sense of what the public want and their own personal attitudes. They throw problem after problem at it, and it is a frightening thought that they might just possibly win. Sympathetic as one may be to the residents of the Market Square, most of the raised objections are simply alarmism, and, harsh as it sounds, the residents only represent a very, very small percentage of the population of Dover.
So much of the public perception of DDC is negative and I think even some of their senior officers would secretly admit they have a PR problem. As Dover public, we are all sick of hearing about the imminent regeneration with no physical manifestation (for whatever reasons, rightly or wrongly), so it is very disheartening that certain persons at DDC seem intent on blocking the only sign that things are just beginning to move. In short, these minority killjoy voices will be ruining fun for the most of us loyal taxpayers.
The screen should be seen as a little entertaining 'thank you' by DDC to the patient people of Dover and to show that things are indeed happening...slowly but surely.
Guest 670- Registered: 23 Apr 2008
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Bit of plain speaking Phil to the killjoys, resign, you do the town no favours with your constant negative attitude toward anything that might help give it a bit of life and something, heaven forbid, a lot of people might actually enjoy.
I hope that sums up what a lot of people are saying.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
susan
you know very well that anti social behaviour has been occurring in market square for years now.
i understand that it has bee reported by local residents many times.
do you know why this still goes on if we have an anti social behaviour unit?
Ross Miller- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
- Posts: 3,707
Well said Phil
Whilst I personally dislike these sorts of screens I can see the kudos that it gives to Dover and the enjoyment it will potentially give to many. Those traders selling food and drink are likely to get a boost from the crowds the screen will attract etc.
Howard is correct about current anti-social behaviour in this area of town. Sue why not get down there between 11 & 12 on a Friday or Saturday night the screen will not make it any worse and might just possibly improve behaviour.
"Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die today." - James Dean
"Being deeply loved by someone gives you strength,
While loving someone deeply gives you courage" - Laozi
DT1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 15 Apr 2008
- Posts: 1,116
As I have mentioned before I'm not sure whether or not anti-social behviour is watching TV, or watching one collectively. I'm actually stating to get confused about what anti-social behaviour is!?
I'd be interested in turning up to a planning meeting about this issue. Although it is out of town, another thing I get confused by. And none of the officers (that do come at a cost) live in the town, a worry!
Sue you do get a hard time over these things (and I hate it, I honestly do) but I don't think you have a broad enough understanding on these things to make such sweeping statements about public opinion. Many of the people I speak to generally confirm what I say, that's why I like speaking to them. (thats why Middle England love the Daily Mail, it confirms their views) This however does not make me right, it just means I associate with like minded people. I'm with Ross and I will not be standing in front of the sreen with a pint of lager, an English flag wrapped around me, singing 'swing low sweet chariot' (oh the irony!) However the the screen will be good for the town and is progressive, providing a great deal for the town.
Good postings, all of them. And so much more effective than "I don't approve" or "I I I I I I I".
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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there seems to be some misconceptions about our forthcoming screen.
there will be sporting events, but mainly it will be tuned to bbc news 24.
some cultural screenings too(whatever that means).
dt
do you know where the rugby anthem originated from?
DT1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 15 Apr 2008
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I take back everything, BBC News 24 is enogh to make anyone anti-social!
Good questions, what is cultural? (As I am in a confused state this evening!)
Yes Howard I do, that's why I mentioned the irony, be careful we may have another '500 poster' on our hands!
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i can picture the scene now, the herberts leave a licensed premises carefully dragging their knuckles along the ground.
all about to go peacefully home for a mug of horlicks, suddenly "newsnight" confronts them.
the cry goes up "it is our jez paxo discussing interest rates with georgie osborne", cue for a fight, if ever i have heard one.
Pausing only to check their grammar and syntax the hordes rush forwards with a cry of Carpe Diem and embrace as a prelude to the Grenedier Waltz. Howard, a tear comes to my eye as I picture the scene.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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quite so bern.
i eagerly await the definitive version of "aida" performed with the fountain as a backdrop.
one can only hope that the chap who plays lead resists the impulse to pour fairy liquid into it.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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quite so bern.
i eagerly await the definitive version of "aida" performed with the fountain as a backdrop.
one can only hope that the chap who plays lead resists the impulse to pour fairy liquid into it.
Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Pausing only to check their grammar and syntax
Thats all we need is a tax on bloomin sin.What will they think up next?A tax on choccy.
Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter)
Quelled, as he must be, by the concept of Handels water music as a backdrop, the lout contemplating such an act must surely be persuaded by the sheer ambiance to add a mere soupcon of Cillit Bang, superior as it is, to l'eau, thus reducing, at a stroke, the foam and the distress. With the bonus of superb cleanliness to follow.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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at risk of incurring the wrath of paulB, errrr wot?
Marek - attax on choc could not be allowed - choc is a weapon of max satisfaction.