Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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This is why we need ``step down beds``in our Hospital...............
Hospital bed-blocking 'rising'
Bed-blocking a massive problem
Patients are facing increasing delays in being discharged from hospital, figures obtained by the BBC suggest.
The problem - known as bed-blocking - happens when support from social care or district nursing is not available in the community for vulnerable patients.
Department of Health data shows that in the last two months, there were more than 128,000 days of delays in England, up 11% on the same period last year.
The rise comes after rates have been falling for much of the past decade.
Major problem
Bed-blocking was viewed as a major problem at the turn of the century.
But numbers started to fall after social care and the NHS were encouraged to develop joint teams to ensure the most needy patients - mainly the elderly - had the right support when they were ready to leave.
To ensure the system worked properly, services can face fines if they fail to put in place the right support.
However, the data released by the Department of Health after a request from the BBC has suggested that trend has now reversed
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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At our Scrutiny meeting on Wednesday, I did ask the question:
As there will be spare land when the hospital is finished, there must be a local need and certainly land capacity, will they incorporate intermediate care beds and they said - NO, not at this time.
Roger
Guest 1103- Registered: 3 Nov 2013
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I think this is madness.... hope it never happens, Suppose there is a major catastrophe happening... Dover is unable to help and Ashford hopelessly already overrun with their capacity.. but those buerocrats (rather cats) know better by the sound of it.
Dover always will be a standing challenge :(
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Always appears strange that Dover with so many visitors doesn't have a hospital that fits this purpose
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Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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We have an over-capacity of hopspitals in this region with Ashford, Margate and Canterbury, all already being specialist hospitals.
The argument is that there are adequate bed-spaces here, also that most people will be better off at home and get better quicker at home, so they are working on social services taking up this to help people who only need rest and medication and wound-dressing, that kind of thing.
Roger
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Oh well, lets all give up
blimey,
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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social services are over strected as it is,let alone putting extra pressure on them.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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true
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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so the nhs is safe in tory hands,and we have enough nurses.i don't think so,is this why they are recruiting from spain.
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No wonder they would not publish the Risk Register......
With all their ill-conceived policies there will be more bad news to come.......the NHS is not safe in
their hands........it is criminal.....
Guest 756- Registered: 6 Jun 2012
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Problem may well be solved by the slow ambulance response times recently reported, we'll be dead before we get there!
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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maybe thats what they want lesley
as roger says though it don't matter
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Guest 756- Registered: 6 Jun 2012
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Having first hand experience of caring for someone who has a very serious condition, there is a great need for more District Nurses and support systems for patients to access information and help for their conditions. More and more Charities who could previously bridge the gap are ceasing to exsist or finding that they cannot offer the level of support they could previously provide.
If you do not have family or friends to check on you it may be many days after your release from hospital before you see anyone at all. If the hospital know this, is it any wonder that they do not wish to undo all the good work they have done by sending someone home to try and cope without adequate support?
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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a couple of generations back families lived in close proximity as a general rule but nowadays people move further away or even emigrate in order to get a better lifestyle which can mean that the vulnerable elderly are reliant on good quality health care.
Guest 1103- Registered: 3 Nov 2013
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example
A Family with children no family around.
one having a major OP. leaving 3 weeks not doing anything.
in hospital: u get checked on all the time, dont have to worry for meals, no strain on your parenting, no stress with appointments as everything should be taken care of.
now home: routine impossible, stressed, no health checks on a regular basis, risk higher something else develops. most of them dont have regular meals as not fit or bothered... most of the time help is not in reach....
Now this is just a small glimpse. Also could happen to single people young middle aged or elderly does not matter.
Many dont even know they are in Danger until it is too late....
Think first before decide. Because once you have made the decision on this, its hard to revert back ...
Seen it, experienced it and didnt like it ... enough said.
Your Choice, decide well
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Guest 756- Registered: 6 Jun 2012
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Add £10 perscription charges and it will be the choice between food or medication.
Guest 1103- Registered: 3 Nov 2013
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true Lesley.... if they really struggle, I am for a NHS charge on your wages, which at the moment is free. But as everything ... things always get more expensive each year and this should not be. Also it needs a good shake up in the administration field. Far too many Managers and Bosses for my liking. Rather have a good Jobdescription and knowing what to do then to pass on responsiblities from pillow to post as this is happening right now.
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Guest 1031- Registered: 22 Aug 2013
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Lesley Ives wrote:Add £10 perscription charges and it will be the choice between food or medication.
This is a sad observation Lesley but could be true if charges are imposed on the most vulnerable. I suspect that many would stop medication with disastrous consequences!
Heike, a part of National Insurance contributions, a charge on wages, is already in existence but obviously doesn't produce enough revenue.
Reducing the hierarchy and bringing back Matrons to run things would be more efficient and less costly too!
Guest 756- Registered: 6 Jun 2012
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Sadly the diets of many already cause ill health and /or makes the conditions worse. I think the level of poverty is greatly underestimated and the "breadline" measure should now be refered to as the crumbline!!!
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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The matron worked in years gone by Amanda
needs a serious rethink if things are to imorove
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