Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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Britain must limit European immigration during the recession, says ex-Labour minister Frank Field
Britain must stop letting in so many immigrants from Europe during the recession because the job market is "flooded", Downing Street's poverty adviser has warned.
European workers are allowed to pass freely across borders to find jobs
Frank Field, a former Labour minister and MP for Birkenhead, said immigration from Europe was a major reason that millions of people are struggling to find jobs in the recession.
He said it would be increasingly difficult for unemployed British people to find work while the "market is flooded with over-qualified applicants from Europe".
He said temporary restrictions would help give the Government's welfare reforms a "fair wind", as ministers try to encourage the long-term workless back into jobs.
"During the recession, the Government just needs to tell Brussels that we just can't have free movement of labour," he told The Daily Telegraph.
"How is Iain Duncan-Smith [the Work and Pensions Secretary] going to get people off benefits into work if the market is flood with over-qualified people from Europe?
"There's a huge haemorrhaging of Tory support to UKIP. I would have thought the leadership should look at an idea that would appeal to Tory and indeed many Labour voters."
Hundreds of thousands of migrant workers from Eastern Europe have settled in Britain since countries such as Poland joined the European Union.
However, the Government quickly dismissed Mr Field's suggestions as it could make it difficult for British people to get jobs abroad.
Damian Green, the immigration minister, said "closing off" the European market would "badly impact" workers.
It is not unprecedented for countries imposed temporary measures to stop an influx of workers from eastern Europe.
Earlier this month, Switzerland said workers from the Czech Republic, Estonia, Hungary, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Slovakia and Slovenia would have to seek authorisation before arriving for work.
The country is not in the European Union (EU), but it said immigration from the economic bloc would now be subject to quotas.
At the time, the EU warned Switzerland it was in breach of a free movement treaty and hinted it could face legal action.
Britain has already limited the arrival of unskilled workers from outside the European Union.
However, free travel within the EU is a key principle of the union.
Earlier this year, David Cameron led a coalition of countries claiming that workers should be able to get jobs abroad within Europe even more easily as migration will help the economy.
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Keith Sansum1
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#2
there you go then
cameron already going the opposite direction
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#3
successive governments have betrayed the british people on this issue and there is no sign of a let up.
overall nett migration last year was 200,000 despite dave and ms may saying it would not happen.
daft statements about putting a block on incoming eastern europeans would take away the chance of us working in latvia are plain ludicrous.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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#4
yes they talked tough prior to the election as they always do, played up the race card.
but then like other parties just carried on the same way, and in fact made it worse
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Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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There are a lot of Eastern Europeans in Dover who work, and there are some who, as I seem to understand, never work.
I think under Communism these latter just lived off State benefits and salaries even if they did nothing, and when the system changed. they just transferred en block to the UK.
Officially they might work as iron-mongers, but their actual income is through sheer benefits all-round, methinks.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i don't see it as about race keith, much more about cowing to big business by supplying them with cheap labour and put british workers and the self employed tradespersons on the dole.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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howadrd;
of course its a race thing howard.
on my way to work each morning i pass around 50 polish workers whom i presume are waiting for transport to kent salads()or wehatever there name is these days)
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Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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#8
At least they work, Keith!
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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im not the one going on about the issue alexander
just explaining what i see.
i recall the arguments when we had a lot of differing nationalities enter the uk
is started with
they are all on benefits
when it was found a large number were working it changed to, there taking our jobs.
so many other rumours circulated, very few substantiated once investigated
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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think about it keith, black and brown ewnglish people are losing work to white eastern europeans!!
just ask those thrown on the scrap heap?
the issue is about immigration to please the elite greedy.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Keith, there has never been any doubt, in my view, that the vast majority of Eastern Europeans in Britain work, mostly for a minimum wage, and work hard and endure sacrifices for it.
One of my points was: if the EU was such a great system, why do so many young people from the eastern part feel the need to migrate to the western part to find work?
One reason is, there is high unemployment in all of the EU, including the eastern part, and the difference in wage in eastern EU and western countries of the same EU attracts many people from East to West.
The conclusion: unemployment in Britain and other western EU countries rises among local people.
And also: there must be something terribly wrong with the EU system, as it is anything other than the paradise on Earth they had promised years back.
Normally you would think, reading EU propaganda from years ago, that the system would be flourishing, with little or no unemployment, where every person finds a job in their own hometown.
It is anything other than that!. It is a sheer hoax!
Not the fault of the Eastern European worker who works hard in the UK to survive and bring some sort of revenue to their home town when they return.
My other point is: there are people from the East who only speak their own language after many years, have settled here, and have never worked!
They get everything free, from housing to every sort of benefit under the sun.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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HOWARD;
I believe some time ago we had a thread stating that uk people were unwilling to do these jobs
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Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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Keith s
Race card
Keith this is the oldest labour liberal trick in the book,
Its about jobs, wage reduction limited housing .school places,and generally taking the pi..
PS.
Most of them ar f..king white
labour need to listen more to there core voters
Brian Dixon
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kieths,its tilmanstone salads,it used to be fully staffed by full time staff,but due to some of the workers where reaching retirement age they desided to use more and more agency workers.which all so cuts down paper work and red tape connected to the empoyers commitments.in other words they cut back on expences.
Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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It's nothing to do with race, there's too many people living in the UK. Not enough jobs, not enough water, roads clogged up, people can argue they want more immigrants, what they can't argue is we need more
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#16
exactly my point, the infrastructure cannot take any more.
Jan Higgins
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#17
Very well put David, there are lots of things we all want but not that many we need and can afford.
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Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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I don't know if it's true, but I have heard of British applicants for menial jobs in factories turned away because they don't speak Polish, all the health and safety announcements being only in that language.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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that has happened all over the country and reported on in the responsible press.
causes no end of resentment and poles have complained as they become targets for abuse by unemployed locals.
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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Which if true is not surprising.
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