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  That's a dream Neil .
  
  
  Even I feel Labour will get elected, not because many have any more faith in Starmer than Tories , but just because Tories are so unpopular .
  
  At least in the main Ross agrees we are unlikely to see that much change even under Starmer
  Which brings me back to, so why then vote Labour ?.
  
  I think Starmer has burnt his bridges with many on the left , causing some to set up alternative parties , whilst probably not doing to much damage , could see a few elected in safer Labour seats with apathy so big.
  
  I feel people are no more enthused by Starmer than they are the Tories .
  Not a good ticket to be elected on.
  Of course Starmer still does have that hurdle to get over

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