howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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I cannot understand why the appeal court judges need so long when the issue is one of possible procedural deficiencies, 12 days so far.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-45029755
Feels like that moment when the UK arrested Pinochet only to release him three days later.
Just because you don't take an interest in politics doesn't mean that politics won't take an interest in you. PERICLES.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Courtesy of the Times.
After Tommy Robinson was released from prison this week, his cheerleader Raheem Kassam was interviewed on Radio 4’s Today programme. Martha Kearney raised Robinson’s violent criminal record, his insidious “warning”, as English Defence League leader, to all Muslims after terrorist attacks. With facts and tough questions, Kearney sought to unpick the persona of “citizen journalist” Honest Tommy. Yet many have argued that the BBC should not host Kassam at all. To interview him or Robinson or Steve Bannon, with whom both are working to build a trans-European far-right movement, is to legitimise hatred, normalise fascism and draw Islamophobia into the mainstream.
It would be great never to see again the veneered smile of Robinson: the girlfriend-beating football thug and mortgage fraudster, too thick or arrogant to grasp contempt laws understood by any free-sheet trainee, who risked derailing complex trials and denying alleged rape victims justice. Cast him out to the nutty fringes, no-platform and ignore him, keep his views off our airwaves, cut the publicity oxygen pipe and hope he chokes. Except I don’t think we have this choice. Such volatile times. Reason, like the ocean before a tsunami, has been sucked out of public discourse and we await a destructive wave. Trump’s wisest words, that he could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue and still not lose votes, now applies at both ends of the spectrum. Jeremy Corbyn could deny the Holocaust live on Press TV, and some acolytes would claim he’d been taken out of context or was a victim of Zionist distortion and still post Moonie-esqe Twitter memes under #WeAreCorbyn.
Likewise Robinson’s supporters do not care about his crimes, that their diamond geezer hero is really called Stephen Yaxley-Lennon and ran a sunbed shop. He could throttle an imam on Luton high street and his YouTube hits — already between 400,000 and a million views per video — would only soar, his martyr myth burn brighter. This is a cunning media operator. Watch Robinson’s return-from-prison video as he talks wet-eyed about his traumatised kids, then opens a door so they rush sobbing into his arms. Daddy’s home! A perfect reality TV “reveal”. Or the shaky camera livestream outside Leeds crown court as he berates defendants, ending in his noble arrest. “You’ve all watched this!” he cries to his viewer. It is intimate, conspiratorial and amateurish, which implies an authenticity lacked by dishonest professional journalists.
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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working to build a trans-European far-right movement, is to legitimise hatred, normalise fascism and draw Islamophobia into the mainstream.????
the question is Howard,, is Robinson the fascist? Or is Islam the fascist? I would suggest the later.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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You missed out an important word Keith, RADICAL islam is a problem unlike the average muslim that simply hunts away on the ground every Friday trying to rescue a contact lens.
Tommy is simply a self promoting thug who is more ambitious than the rest of his shaven headed, pierced and tattooed chums. If there were no Koran readers he would focus on ginger people, those who talk with a limp or walk with a lisp or even those who choose to ride a bicycle in order to further his career.
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I never said Muslim? I said, Islam .
the words in the book are whats fueling it all, we need a political debate on the book of Islam in this country., your labour party continue to white wash over the words in this book, and the people see this as labour and Tory being complicit.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Our political prisoner has been telling porkies again.
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the bit that's missing Howard is the fact that he was removed from a safe prison, to an Islamic dominated one . and he did not receive a legal court appearance.
And remember she is one of the thousands of girls sacrificed on your altar of political correctness.
robinson should never have needed to report on this abuse, every media outlet should have been on it?
its still going on, Labour and conservative still shy away from whats happening, a Labour front bench MP was sacked for even bringing it up,, and replaced with one that gave a statement that the victims should shut up about it.
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Keith your gullibility over every lie Yaxley spouts is awe inspiring he would be so proud of you, keep up the good work!
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Reginald Barrington wrote:Keith your gullibility over every lie Yaxley spouts is awe inspiring he would be so proud of you, keep up the good work!
Reginald Barrington,,, I will. and millions like me
you can all just keep on shooting the messenger, but the reality is,, if the scum didn't commit the crime Robinson couldn't have reported on it ?
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Keith
If the media are not reporting on these crimes how does Tommy know about them in order to make a nuisance of himself?
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howard mcsweeney1 wrote:Keith
If the media are not reporting on these crimes how does Tommy know about them in order to make a nuisance of himself?
I believe most of his information comes from the victim's and their females and from whistleblowers from within the system?
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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It is standard practice for reporting restrictions to be issued when there are multiple alleged victims so that each does not concoct a story with the others, we had that with the Jonathon King trial and other similar cases. The full stories are splashed all over the media once the trials are over, no need for someone as devious as Tommy to try to con people that there are cover ups.
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Steve Bannon writing in the Sunday Times.
Donald Trump’s former chief strategist Steve Bannon claims he is “ecstatic” that the far-right leader Tommy Robinson has been released from prison and describes him as a “force of nature” like the rapper Kanye West. In a wide-ranging interview with The Sunday Times, Bannon speaks about his relationship with Robinson, his advice for Boris Johnson on how to be as successful as Trump and his plans to shake up Europe with the launch of a new Brussels-based organisation called the Movement.
Bannon, who has called Robinson “the backbone” of Britain, caused fury last month when he clashed with the radio station LBC’s political editor, Theo Usherwood, who challenged him over his support for the jailed activist. Today he defends his remarks, saying Robinson, who was released from jail this month after winning an appeal against a contempt of court conviction, “should never have been locked up. Robinson, whose real name is Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, faces a fresh hearing over an allegation that he committed an offence by broadcasting on social media from outside a trial.
“That’s why I told LBC that, and they all jumped up and down like babies live on air to insist he was guilty,” Bannon said. “We didn’t know at the time he was guilty. That’s the whole point. Now he’s won his appeal and no one in the press is apologising for the way they treated him.” While Bannon says he has not personally contacted Robinson since his release, he claims his “guys are in touch with him every day”.
“Tommy is not just a guy but a movement in and of himself now,” said Bannon. “He represents the working class and channels a lot of the frustration of everyday, blue-collar Britons . . . He is a force of nature — like Kanye [West] — not built to be managed.” Last month Bannon revealed plans for a pan-European movement to rally nationalist and populist voters in the European parliament elections next May, with the aim of undermining the bloc. He says until November 6, when the US midterm elections take place, he will spend 80% of his time in America, but from then on will spend 70% of his time in Europe “until our victory in May 2019”. “I pride myself in building organisations that roll up their sleeves and get on with it in regards to the hard, unglamorous work of winning. That’s our focus now on polling, analytics, messaging, grassroots organising,” he added.
Bannon has recently met with Matteo Salvini, Italy’s deputy prime minister, who has called for a Europe-wide alliance against “mass immigration”. However, Bannon will not be drawn on whether he will be joining forces with the far-right leader of the League. “Salvini has a plan; [Viktor] Orban [the Hungarian prime minister] has a plan — it’s all great,” he said. “This shows vision, energy, commitment — it is what makes this so exciting.”
He also criticised the European Union, which he accused of being amateurish in the way it has engaged in the Brexit negotiations. “From the EU’s perspective they’ll want to seem strong,” he said. “But they’re not. It’s amateur hour the way they’re dragging this on. “They think they’re embarrassing Britain but they’re embarrassing themselves, too, like they did with the TTIP [Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership]. Negotiations that never went anywhere. “The EU doesn’t ever want to do fair deals because it is a protectionist trading bloc itself. It can’t do deals, otherwise it highlights its own hypocrisy and/or loses one of its core reasons for being: the German auto corporates, the French farmers and so on. It all comes down to a very shaky alliance of corporate interest and subsidies. That’s all the EU is.”
Bannon also thinks there is “obviously a need for a more populist party in the UK”. “At one time that might have been Ukip under [Nigel] Farage. But please don’t try to smear it with ‘far right’ and ‘anti-Islamic’ so as to scare off people,” he said. “The party can be populist, nationalist and want to thwart radical Islamic doctrine and Islamic supremacism without being anti-Muslim.” He has not written off Ukip, though, adding: “If [the Conservatives] cobble a deal together along the lines of the Chequers deal, there’ll be rebellion inside the Conservative Party. And I don’t just mean the MPs. I mean the members. Prepare for Ukip to hit 20% in the polls again.”
With speculation rife that Johnson could be preparing a leadership run in the autumn after this shock resignation as foreign secretary following the Chequers deal summit, Bannon said he “admired” the former cabinet minister. He claims they met several times during the transition and then during the first year of the Trump administration. Asked whether he had offered Johnson any leadership advice after his resignation, Bannon said: “Any conversations I have with active political figures are confidential — I consider Boris Johnson someone who understands the physics in the ebb and flow of events. Those individuals are rare.”
Bannon also denied that he had been responsible for improving the relationship between Johnson and the US president. During his visit to London, Trump embarrassed Theresa May by saying Johnson would make “a great prime minister”. But Bannon said it was “Trump who changed Boris’s attitude towards Trump – through action.” He added: “Boris admires [Sir Winston] Churchill and wrote a compelling book about him. What he most admired was Churchill’s courage and his ‘action this day’ mentality. I think he sees that in the president on his better days.”
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Bannon, Boris (the buffoon) Johnson, and Winston Churchill all in the same article puts this shower in stark perspective. Thank goodness nobody in their right mind could be fooled by this nonsense. I can only guess that Bannon is sticking his oar in over here because he has lost his credibility in the US. As a well known supporter of the far right political parties in europe, I don't think we need his input in the UK, and if and when Johnson starts his campaign to be the next PM, Iwould imagine it will be as a thinly disguised far right party. Voters beware !
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What's with standing in front of shelves of books? Who does he think he is, F.R. Leavis?
'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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