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    Absolutely spot on with your assessment John, those of us that remember the previous referendum know that politicos were 2 - 1 for staying in, money spent in the campaign was 2 - 1 for staying in, leaflets through the letterbox were 2 - 1 for staying in, you can guess the margin of victory for staying in.

    Dave got some post conference bounce from his wildly applauded speech giving his party a 1% lead in the latest opinion poll but once the dust settles it will come clear that the chances of the blues getting a clear majority next May are almost zero.

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