Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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#1
the current government promised a referendum by 2015,it now looks like that will not be happening,well not until 2017 at least.all the main partys have stated so,only labour has come clean and said that there will not be one unless circumstances change.
so what are we joe public going to do about it.my suggestions are as follows.
1/write to the local mp demanding one by October.
2/start an e-petion demanding the same as above.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#2
A referendum on what?
You are also wrong and totally misrepresenting the situation.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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#3
Prior to the 2010 election Cameron gave a cast-iron commitment to an in-out referendum on the EU during this parliament. It is his failure to honour this commitment which has contributed most to the rise of UKIP since the last election.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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#4
barry,europe of course.
Cameron promised by 2015,and before you he didn't its in black and white.unless its been deleated by accident of course.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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#5
Having seen that commitment totally dishonoured, many now take his promise for a referendum by 2017 with a pinch of salt, and have become UKIP supporters or 'don't knows'.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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#6
Absolutely spot on Peter, Cameron is utterly discredited.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#7
i think the pm is hoping the problem will go away and people will forget by 2017.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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#8
Very cynical of Cameron now to boast that the Tories are the only party to promise a referendum. Here's a man who has burnt the trust of his voters on a bonfire of opportunism. 'Gentlemen, those are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others.' - Groucho Marx, but might as well have been DC.
Before the last election I believed Cameron's promise of a referendum. Now I don't. To quote Nietzsche: "I'm not upset that you lied to me, I'm upset that from now on I can't believe you."
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
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#9
Even if we were to get a referendum I would not trust the wording , we will not be given a simple in or out wording.
The present politicians all seem to be working towards a United States Of Europe not the simple free trade Europe we all thought we were getting when we joined.
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Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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#10
It's the retirement job opportunities that cloud their judgment, Jan.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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#11
of course not forgetting the u-turns and cock ups on misconceived policys to think about.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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#12
yes Brian but that applies to all parties.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#13
We are just not going to vote anymore wast of time at our age
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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#14
agreed peter,its about time these politicos where made accountable by joe public.
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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#15
I think Brian's accounts been hacked?
he's been saying he didn't want a referendum on eu membership ?
good to see you've come around.
only one way to get out of the EU and that's to lend your vote to ukip
getting out will transform this country into a little power house, free from all the bull s....
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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#16
kieth,have not changed my mind on the eu.just hate people who say/promise something and go back on there word,or in camerons way back in the melting pot of a scrap yard.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#17
Peter Garstin wrote:Prior to the 2010 election Cameron gave a cast-iron commitment to an in-out referendum on the EU during this parliament. It is his failure to honour this commitment which has contributed most to the rise of UKIP since the last election.
That was not his pledge Peter. That was to do with the Treaty ratification but, sadly, Labour in collusion with the LibDems made sure the Treaty was ratified before the election. Once it was ratified the referendum was irrelivent.
I suggest certain people here do there research and get your facts right.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#18
i would have thought there was even more reason for a referendum after a treaty was ratified.
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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#19
Cameron wanted the treaty , he's 100% Europhile .as are most of the conservative parliamentary party.
If they where committed to a referendum they could do in now or cal an election if labour and libs blocked it .
No powers will come back from the eu ,,will they Barry?
Vote conservative get labour and the EU
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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#20
barry,the fact is a in out referendum was on the cards but never implemented by the tory party.