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  Thank you for responding John...
  
  "being told what we can and can`t do whilst at the same time paying vast sums of money for that pleasure"
  
  It is something, to be told that there is no conversation to had other than 'OUT', this may save me many hours. As far as the statement I quote above goes, what you say John is true of all Governments:central and local.
  As to the remainder of your first paragraph; it is often better to travel in hope than to arrive.
  
  "If" I mean immigrants? This thread is all about inter-European immigration. I thought that was 'a given'.
  A higher standard of living? If that were generally the case I have been miss-sold the situation on the Folkestone Road. I heard the rest from NF.
  
  Things that 'seem to be' is the foundation of all conjuring tricks;now you see it, now you don't. No wonder the 'immigrant' NF and UKIP fit so neatly into the low standard of UK Politics, but there is often a runt in every litter.
  
  As far as the peppering of 'us' and 'we' into the conversation goes. This must be done more in hope than in truth. Certainly, as far as UKIP and myself go, we are as chalk is to cheese. The coupling of isolationism with the tendency to speak for all brings to my mind Spike Milligan's impression of the restaurant in the 'Post-Office Tower':Spinning on the spot chomping on thin air.
  
  Where will UKIP spend the money you say 'we' will save by being out of the EU? And who is to be sheriff of this new regulation-free Wild West show?
  
  What is UKIP for?

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