Keith Bibby wrote:The Labour surge in membership was good at £3 a pop, I have to admit this,,, and I am a big believer in the members wagging the Dog. that's democracy
but why did it not carry them into government ???
pretend labour have a big problem with the old labour working class, like me.
the British poor working class are not convinced, with your open doors, politicly correct representatives. even Jeremy has flipped flopped on his principles on the EU?
I do agree with lots of the policies on the NHS, housing and taking back utilities.
but on the matter of the EU and open doors,, it's just a big no, no for me.
I just don't see how the mass importation of cheap labour, and setting it against your own working class workforce is progress???
I Agree the small fee for £3 helped many new members, as the 18-40 generation of working class in many occasions have very little spare for the average membership fee.
And speaking for myself as a member who was out talking to people during the snap election campaign, we couldn't carry ourselves loud enough past the roar coming from MSM.
Nearly every day there was another story with the narrative of "a Corbyn government, would bring down the sky" and It's very hard to try and teach people the difference between communism, fascism and socialism on the door step, when for too long these things have been conflated by different people, and the whole labour movement being held back by some of those at the top still working against the Majority Memberships choice in leader.
Just think about the backlash Corbyn got after the EU referendum, what would have happened to him if he had dared to back a leave campaign ? (considering he's an original brexitter)
He would have lost his place immediately if he had in my opinion, so played the referendum on the cool, he's unhappy with it, 7/10 about the EU as it is but staying in was safer. Especially considering we had at that time another 4yrs until the next gerenal election, May had a majority, and so it would have been harder to stop the Tory government from damaging the country at that time.
Plus what really annoys me the most is people conflating Europe (the continent) and the European Union (political organisation) I mean for some I had to remind them, we weren't about to row out into the mid Atlantic and abandon our European cousins, just that we didn't want to be politically entangled anylonger.
I'm still with Labours plan for Brexit, and believe that Corbyn is actually the only one more likely to pull it off because he knows the faults and problems with the European Union more than most.
A jobs first Brexit, one that thinks of the people rather than just the 1%.
We have never endorsed open door immigration since the referendum, unless I've missed something.
Because upon leaving the single market the four freedoms automatically end, it is then an opportunity for us make a fair, balanced and sector based immigration policy.
Because until we've been able to plug our skills gap, we are always going to need migration, we've always had migration. Genetics proves we're all former immigrants in some shape or form.
And who was the person before the Eu Referendum highlighting the Workers Posting directive, which is the biggest cause of lower paid workers being brought in by corporations wanting to undercut local wages. You can't blame the (non U.K.) workers for wanting to earn decent money, lay the blame at the feet of those that exploit the workers in the first place. And if everyone was unionised they wouldn't have that issue, because they would all be working at the same rate and have the collective barginging to help uphold workers terms and conditions. Brits, poles and other all alike, on the same wage with the same support, what envy would that cause?
But that's just my thought and opinions.