Keith Sansum1
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I find myself to a point agreeing with Ross(this is a worry lol)
I can only presume Labour at the top has done it's homework on moving to the left.
if they can sustain this, and how by not getting the middle England support(as Blair did) if this will be enough to see it into number 10.
The momentum issue has a lot of strands to it, no more so than how it works across the party, what I will say is I will always support making politicians accountable, something Momentum pushes, but sometimes there acts of how this is achieves fails them.
Without doubt in Folkestone with Momentum support Folkestone Labour party is out on the streets and pushing an agenda for change.
Bearing in mind Folkestone Labour didn't have a Cllr, didn't meet, membership were unable to take part in selections, or even come to branch meetings as there were none.
I recall the Dover chair some time ago stating his local party would be getting out in the communities and have learnt the lessons of the past(after losing there safest seat in st rads in the past) that was November.
I'm still waiting for this to start, and certainly as chair of alocal community association I have seen no active part of getting into this association or this community.
Labour needs to build up from it's roots in the community, the job could be then be so much easier.
Labour has to get over this lack of trust of it's policies and affordability
I hope the Momentum doesn't turn into open warfare within the party, as many people out in the communities are hurting and need change, but many are more aware now, and want to see an alternative to this Govt, not just a second rate tory party.
Although there will be an interesting bun fight locally for selection as labour's candidate, Charlie won't be taken out easily.
And i'm really surprized his party are stalling so much on his suspension that could be political suicide.
But Labour won't just walk into the Dover seat just because of the Charlie issue as some of it's activists think. People are not silly, they recall meetings in London(ask any long term railway worker) where in Westminster hall the likes of Prescott, etc prior to a general election promised to renationalise the railways(as there doing now) only to see labour gain power then go back on there word.
They also promised to sort out the NHS and the privatisation there in,
but they were also guilty of helping to privatise our NHS service.
Now, it's quite correct we shouldn't keep looking back, but many(not the few lol) won't forgive Labour for going back on it's word for whatever reason.
Many are looking for an alternative, Govt that will work for the people.
Supporting and being involved in communities.
Am I wishing to much?
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Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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the labour party have lost Dover now after the labour party have reneged on EU membership, and Aylesham moving over to Canterbury in the boundary changes.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Keith Bibby wrote:the labour party have lost Dover now after the labour party have reneged on EU membership, and Aylesham moving over to Canterbury in the boundary changes.
I'm not sure when those changes come into effect, I was told it would unlikely to be before the next General Election. Don't forget that many Labour voters switched to UKIP last time and they will either come back or abstain.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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They are looking to get it in by next general election
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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http://www.kentonline.co.uk/dover/news/four-way-battle-to-be-labour-160942/
Sloppy journalism here with the name of the constituency and Ms Dorrell's occupation wrong.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Quite a few errors of judgement
It would have been fairer to give a write up of all 4 candidates.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Ms Cornell has been out and about mixing with the peasants.
Guest 2418- Registered: 14 Dec 2017
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They always call it dover and deal otherwise no one in that other town ever takes a blind bit of notice. I cant remember the last time someone who lived in dover was up for election as MP
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Pauline
The last labour MP came from Dover
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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I thought he lived in River Keith and Sue will confirm that River is a village in its own right light years away from Dover.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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The hustings this weekend have been cancelled due to the inclement weather.
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
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Yes Gwyn lives in River.Not sure if he voted for me but we always got on well .He used to sit next to me in the council chamber.Not a bad chap.Very approachable .
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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New dates for the hustings, Oddfellows hall, Pencester Road, Dover on the 16th at 7 PM then at the Landmark Centre, High Street, Deal on the 18th at 2. 45 pm.
For the many not the few.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Howard
thought it was for the few not the many lol
Putting aside the al women shortlist(not allowing to see if the best candidate is selected)
Is Labour doing enough in Dover/Deal to take on Charlie?
I fear not
The only thing Labour can hope for is a split vote if the tories don't soon charge Charlie
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Reminder of the hustings this evening starting at 7 PM at what a cynic might call the appropriately named Oddfellows Hall in Pencester Road. Doors open 45 minutes before to give party members a chance to get plastered in advance of the speeches. Doubtless His Grace will give us the benefit of his views on the aspiring hopefuls later.
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howard mcsweeney1 wrote:Reminder of the hustings this evening starting at 7 PM at what a cynic might call the appropriately named Oddfellows Hall in Pencester Road. Doors open 45 minutes before to give party members a chance to get plastered in advance of the speeches. Doubtless His Grace will give us the benefit of his views on the aspiring hopefuls later.
Or maybe on Sunday...
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The Labour PPC will be announced on Thursday. Await the white smoke folks.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Why Thursday when the final votes are cast tomorrow in Deal?
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howard mcsweeney1 wrote:Why Thursday when the final votes are cast tomorrow in Deal?
Deadline for postal voters.
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Captain Haddock
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Whilst not a supporter of the Labour party, I was glad to hear (via an MP3 file!) such a wide range of views from the candidates.
"The world is still a weird place, despite my efforts to make clear and perfect sense of it".
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
"The world is still a weird place, despite my efforts to make clear and perfect sense of it".
