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    There you go then Neil
    So across the country local members were excluded by the leadership
    And exceptional circumstances ? Used to exclude a broader church

    Best in mind Labour was built on having this broad set of views , no longer it seems.

    The desperation to get into number ten, ditching any policies , being better at being Tories than the Tories themselves all lands us with Same old.

    Starker has had his opportunity to show the direction he wishes to go , and really being a local member was the one time you could at least pick your candidates , no longer the case.

    I think , Labour MAY form a govt, but it will only be Labour in name.

    Politics is looking grim at the moment .

    About the only part we agree on Neil is your final part on woman only shortylists
    There are some fantastic women candidates , but over the years, pushed by Harriet Harman
    Women only shortlists came in and locally a good , well respected councillor Reg Hansell was unable to stand for his seat only women .
    And anpopular woman replaced him , who was a crap cllr purely because she was a women.

    I did , as did the local party disagree on women only shortlisted candidates , and appealed also to regional party but sadly it was pushed by ex Labour leader M Eddy at the time who was less than truthful throughout .
    I think it should be on ability as local Labour even the women supported that view , apart of course from one individual e rowbotham who would benefit from W.O.S. Not through ability !

    Futures looking grim

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