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    Clearly labour now has an identity crisis .

    Thankfully Neil has recognised this , Brian still out in the wilderness , maybe will come round soon.

    It is good Labour holds on to the likes of Burnham the leader in Wales, and some councillors across the country .

    But they have such an uphill battle now which I'm not sure they will recover from .


    With so many avenues of debate labour could have to hold the Govt to account , putting to the top of attack was Boris and his house decoration , although important , there were bigger fish to fry.

    Both at the National and for some time the local level people have lost faith in them .
    Heartland votes disappearing .
    As I said before losing locally
    Mill Hill
    And
    St Rads (again)
    Safe seats in the past for Labour shows they have list there way.

    Trouble now is how do they become electable again?
    Move to the middle England voters as Blair did and become a second rate Tory party , and it's membership won't get out on doorstep to get message across

    Move to the left like Corbyn and look to be unelectable .

    They look at this time to be in a no win situation

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