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  I don't know much about toad but back to ken lol
  
  I'm unsure as to what it is i'm supposed to have known, what I do know is I spent 25 years in the party and in that time looked after my electorate.
  At times I did question many leading lights of the party, but that's the ideals of such a party.
  
  As you know Ken I had no problem being critical of the local labour leaders, and party membership from the local party right up to the national party.
  Taking them on many times.
  
  Where we differ Ken is that I decided to leave 7 years ago, but as a true socialist there is no way I could go public and say I thought Mr Watkins is a fantastic guy.
  or lead Mr IDS a right wing tory into Dover and promote him.
  
  We also differ when you send me texts throughout the day threatening to go to the national press over comments I was supposed to have made of course I took no notice of the texts and it was all hot air as I suspected.
  That's a big difference in beliefs.
  
  For me once I went that was it.
  
  Had Labour taken my advice last Oct I would not have to have taken my local peoples view that I should stand.
  
  Hopefully they will have learnt lessons come the next 2 by elections.
  
  Hopefully the above explains.

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