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- 20 February 2018 21:37339839All I have to say is: "The geese fly low over Moscow at noon."howard mcsweeney1 likes thisJust because you don't take an interest in politics doesn't mean that politics won't take an interest in you. PERICLES.
- 21 February 2018 17:18339885Egg on face time for the Tory press and many MPs.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/jeremy-corbyn-czech-spy-jan-sarkocy-meeting-chesterfield-derbyshire-mp-mother-commons-a8221321.html - 21 February 2018 17:25339887Still some fun to be had though.
- 21 February 2018 18:40339898A thoroughly bad egg is Jezza.
http://www.southendnewsnetwork.net/news/400000-kfc-bound-chickens-found-in-jeremy-corbyns-london/ - 21 February 2018 18:43339899As if we didn't need any more proof of his wrongdoings.
https://rochdaleherald.co.uk/2018/02/20/idris-elba-to-play-jeremy-corbyn-in-upcoming-cold-war-spy-thriller/ - 21 February 2018 18:48339900howard mcsweeney1 wrote:A thoroughly bad egg is Jezza.
http://www.southendnewsnetwork.net/news/400000-kfc-bound-chickens-found-in-jeremy-corbyns-london/
This is serious news...as a working class Bishop, I take a chicken dinner very seriously and I'm tough on chicken hijackers and tough on the causes chicken hijackers. This finder-licking sin won't go away easily.Just because you don't take an interest in politics doesn't mean that politics won't take an interest in you. PERICLES. - Reginald Barrington
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21 February 2018 18:56339901After all these years you tell me that licking my finder is a sin? He'll be most upset.Arte et Marte - Captain Haddock
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21 February 2018 20:40339905howard mcsweeney1 wrote:Egg on face time for the Tory press and many MPs.
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Up to a point Lord Copper:- https://order-order.com/2018/02/21/stasi-file-reveals-corbyns-peace-group-was-infiltrated-by-east-german-spies/"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson - 21 February 2018 22:18339909
- 21 February 2018 22:22339910Captain Haddock wrote:Up to a point Lord Copper:- https://order-order.com/2018/02/21/stasi-file-reveals-corbyns-peace-group-was-infiltrated-by-east-german-spies/
Very Scoop. An education, you have.Just because you don't take an interest in politics doesn't mean that politics won't take an interest in you. PERICLES. - Captain Haddock
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22 February 2018 00:13339914With reference to Mawby 'he is the only Conservative MP known to have spied for a Communist government'.
However amongst our Labour friends:-
http://theconversation.com/why-its-unfair-to-single-out-jeremy-corbyn-over-mi5-surveillance-78142
and
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-32044580
Security Service Act 1989 Para 1(2) states The function of the Service shall be the protection of national security and, in particular, its protection against threats from espionage, terrorism and sabotage, from the activities of agents of foreign powers and from actions intended to overthrow or undermine parliamentary democracy by political, industrial or violent means.
One only has to look at quotes from such as John McDonnell from as recent as 2013 :-
'Parliamentary democracy doesn't work for us, elections aren't working for us,'
'We used to call it insurrection. Now we're polite and say it's direct action. Let's get back to calling it what it is: It's insurrection. We want to bring this Government down by whatever mechanism we have.
'If that means urging unions to coordinate their action, let's do it. If that means calling every community organisation to demonstrate on the same day to bring this country to a standstill, let's start organising for it now.'
............ to realise why the Curzon Street Runners might be taking more than a passing interest in him and his colleagues whatever the Wilson Doctrine says!"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
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22 February 2018 09:17339918Captain Haddock wrote:With reference to Mawby 'he is the only Conservative MP known to have spied for a Communist government.'
I think that selective emphasis is a little better on the eye.Captain Haddock likes this'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus - Brian Dixon
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22 February 2018 14:52339952must be an election coming up with all this muck flying around. - Captain Haddock
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22 February 2018 16:43339960
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson - Jan Higgins
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22 February 2018 18:56339970Brian Dixon wrote:must be an election coming up with all this muck flying around.
Exactly, tedious and unproductive but I guess it saves the protagonists waffling on about something I might actually find interesting.
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22 February 2018 19:20339975Instead of the 2 major parties running each other down, they would do far better to put out what they would do differently
or why they make the decisions they do.ALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS - 22 February 2018 22:05339984Keith Sansum1 wrote:Instead of the 2 major parties running each other down, they would do far better to put out what they would do differently
or why they make the decisions they do.
Compare their 2017 manifestos, job done.Just because you don't take an interest in politics doesn't mean that politics won't take an interest in you. PERICLES. - Ross Miller
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22 February 2018 23:33339987Dear Cap'n whilst totalitarian regimes are blatant in their takeover and control of the press the supposedly free world is not immune from the powers that be resorting to manipulation and the "manufacturing of consent" as very clearly laid out by the likes of Chomsky and Pilger"Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die today." - James Dean
"Being deeply loved by someone gives you strength,
While loving someone deeply gives you courage" - Laozi - Captain Haddock
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22 February 2018 23:59339988The Bishop wrote:Compare their 2017 manifestos, job done.
Protection for workers on shortest most insecure contracts, appointment to each company board of someone who would represent employees' interest, much more investment in skills, transport and digital infrastructure, new technical qualifications called T-levels for 16 to 17 yr olds, greater protection for the mentally ill in the workplace, crackdown on use of force against Asian and other ethnic minority people in prisons and mental health facilities, toughening and consolidating laws on domestic abuse etc. All in Conservative manifesto.
Compare with the bribe of free student tuition and a 'fully costed' Labour manifesto which the IFS pointed out had literally zero chance of raising the needed extra £49bn in the way they claimed they could.
Unfortunately the narrative turned into whining about a 'death tax', as those who were fortunate enough to end up owning enormous amounts of capital, through happening to own a house, thought they should have any care in old age, paid for by poor working people, rather than out of their capital on their death.
Plus a lot of the soft Tory support voted Labour as they didn't want May to have what they saw a too large a majority and they thought Labour (according to the polls) did not have a hope in Hell of winning.
(Chomsky and Pilger! All you needed was Harold bloody Pinter for a full house. Each of them ranting, repetitive and predictable and God did they go on and on and on and on ................... Though at least they were erudite and educated so I could pick up a few long words to use.)"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson - Ross Miller
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23 February 2018 00:43339991Bob, as I am sure you well know, the key premise Chomsky puts forward in his book "Manufacturing Consent" is that the news media manipulate us all (if we let them) not only by the way they report on news, including their political/editorial bias, but also the prominence they give to it or not and the stuff they choose not to report on at all. The latter is also one of the major premises of much of Pilger's output.
As for your point about the role of the security services, of course they keep tabs on politicians, after all the vast majority are vainglorious fools, just the sort of cannon fodder spies love.Captain Haddock likes this"Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die today." - James Dean
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While loving someone deeply gives you courage" - Laozi
