Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#21
Well I was waiting for you to pop up .
Guest 977- Registered: 27 Jun 2013
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#22
I pop up all over the place! It would be nice to have a considered response to what I have posted instead of sarcasm.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#23
That will not happen I try not to waste any time I have left.
You and I will never see eye to eye as we both know after being on the same council so no point in even thinking about that would happen now.
But as it looks now I might be standing for Lydden again next year we will wait till then.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#24
Well that did not take long.(HA)
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#25
ray is right, whatever we think of ukip they have upset the three main parties and forced them to rethink.
they are not guaranteed the votes they had got used to, and all three parties are losing votes to them and councillors that defect.
all in all a boost for the democratic process.
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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#26
All parties will have to address the big problems facing this country
Policy will have to be grounded in common sense.
This is ukip ,,and the tax's payers alliance driven,
All parties will have to be more in tune with the wishes of the electorate.
The public is becoming more informed ,The days of taking the public for fools is ending, all politicians will need to respond accordingly.
No party will win a majority in Westminster ,with out the votes of the common man.
A lesson ukip are learning.
Bob Whysman
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#27
Oi! Mr Bibby, get back on that other thread and sort out the mess that you instigated!
It's not your style to pick a fight and then leave a junior to sort it out..........return this minute and Good night. (I need more beauty sleep than most)!
Do nothing and nothing happens.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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#28
I can't understand why the local UKIP branch would wish to wash its dirty linen in the public gaze on this forum.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#29
I cannot see how any one can forecast what way the Elections will go next year.
It is all up in the air at this time.
I think a lot of it will come down to the local candidates and our own MP will fall very short of that after the way he was talking about the local hos/on the TV he must take us all for fools.
He needs to put that right or it will come back at him with one big kick up the backside but that I feel has already happen. Times I have been stoped over the last two days by the public talking about what a pratt he made of himself sorry but that is the word they were saying not mine but I must agree with them.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#30
This will give any candidate standing against him 100s of votes by him saying what he did and yes I could be one of them and will be the very first if aske by the press to get up and say so or at any meeting I might go along to.
Most of the votes I would get would come from the blues as they did years ago in a county election which saw them lose a county seat to the reds it was the votes I got what done that.
The same could happen this time I will pull in over a 1000s or even 2000votes vote that will change the way the election in the way would have done if I do not stand.
Win I could never never do that but stop a party yes that could very well happen and if I done that after what he said I would have again done what I set out to do.
The reds must have a very big smile on their faces at this time like they did years ago at that county election vote Mr G/Cowen even came over to thank me and the Dover MP not even say goodnight vic.
I did know that at the time by doing it would give the reds the seat but over all the blues would still hold power in the KCC.
It was done just to show the blues how bad they were doing in local issues but by seeing what the MP said on TV they did not learn of it.
Their own downfall like the next time.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#31
You might aske how do I know that I will get 2000s votes?
That is very easy to workout first I have about 800 voters that will vote because it is just myself they have always been mine main core the rest will come from the lib/dems who are not happy with their own leader but have no wish to vote UKIP or reds
and blue so they will use their vote local to show their own candidate they are not happy with their own party leaders
Also I will pick up a few local UKIP voters they told me already because they are not happy how that party treated their old chairman who was me.
I have been in this for many years so I think I DO know what I am talking about.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#32
I will be using the forums to put my name about hoping to get a few more votes in because the press will not take any notice of me +my funding will be low but we will see over the rest of this year how it all turns out.
But I must find about £2000.funding so if you have a few bob to give away you might just think of my campaign I will again aske the family but in the pass they have always turned me down.
Also I need Alax back to do the door to door work that needs to be done.All a pipe dream I do not think so nothing I have not done before.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#33
Also as a O.A.P myself UKIP keep banging away getting out of the EU yes I back that but the older ones that does not matter so much because it will take years to sort out even if the blues get back in and that is the only way to vote if you wish to see a vote on it but that will not be till 2017 what we as OAP need to see is help now with paying bills and more cash in our pockets just for food etc.
Age UK are the right group to be in but they do not have a lot going for them in the way of support from Westminster so I might also base my campaign on giving more support for them.
Did you know that most parish councils in the UK are run by us older ones,There are millons of us out there still voting and talking about what might happen in ten or more years away is no real help to us .Aparty can win or ,lose power with just the vote of us over 60s .
A lot of UKIP fall in to this age group and say to them that UKIP can not help you over pensions etc because they will not be in power to help even if they wanted to .
So support getting out of the EU but you also need to think as a o.a,p. how can they help you?
Well that is a easy one they cannot help in anyway and we might not around when and if a vote is taken over the EU.
There is so much as OAP need to think about when it comes to voting
We also need to show the younger ones we are not passed just because we walk around with a walking stick so let all of us try to take more part and the first step is to vote for a person you know that will try to help.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#34
Also I was in the army for 6years and royal navy R,NXS for some years after and now a acting member of the British Legion again our members of all the RAF NAVY ARMY need more support and after the time they service, we need more of all services not less and with more pay they need more support from us who are now not serving .
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#35
Please think about joining the British Legion you not need to have served in the Army. Navy. or R.AF but by joining it will help much needed funds for our ex serving members .Thank you.
Bob Whysman- Registered: 23 Aug 2013
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#36
I like your style Vic, on one hand you bemoan the lot of us Senior Citizens, plead poverty and then suggest joining, the British Legion to boost funds!
I know what you meant but in your usual style you eventually get your point across.
You should really consider using your knowledge to help the youngsters prepare for the future which to them is light years away. Having said that, help them in any constructive way you can but, allow them to migrate into 'doers' to shape their own destiny,
The 'them and us' attitude is counter productive and solves nothing.
The world is a different place today from when the older generation were young. There were no mobile phones, computers or the plethora of electronic gadgets that we have today so we invented them, sit back and marvel at what this has led to....you may yet see an electric zimmer in your lifetime and then you can burn your walking sticks to keep warm!
Use your energies to enjoy what you have earned in a lifetime.....forget the past and enjoy the future. Let them canvass for the votes and hope that they use them wisely and provide a better future for themselves and YOUR grandchildren.
Do nothing and nothing happens.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#37
Mr Whysman
Thank you for your very good post and some very good points there.
I do not have much gray matter up top and even that is some what muddle up at times.
But I still feel that I must carry on in the way I have always done .
I have try and try to pack up and call it a day but that does not work for me,
But over the next year we see what happens.
What started me off this time was the remarks the Dover MP said about not needing any help from France over HOS/BEDS it is easy for us living in Dover to get there
Only on the news within the last hour they are saying the UK have a major short of beds and yet when offered over 500beds 21 miles away he said there was not a need for them.
Like it or not we are in the EU and paying a lot of cash out to be in.
Yet when told there are 500 hos /beds we can use at no ex cost our own MP said no as I said before what world is he living in,
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#38
i have an appointment this afternoon at st saviour's hospital, i bet they charge the n.h.s a small fortune.
Brian Dixon
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#39
howard,resent case one nurse 11 hour shift bank holiday weekend £1800.and guess what she/he was a agency nurse.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#40
Over the next few weeks I will be going round parts of England with cap in hand to my family (ha ha)but not holding out much hope .
As in the pass thy all stay out of politics