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    What im seeing is the opposite to you bern,

    you give our point of view and have clear strong views on the N.H.S. it's also valuable to not only share your view(which is fine) but others also have strong views they may also not be opposed to change and many have said so, but you have decided to not guage these opinions

    lifes about learning, and we all make our minds up having heard the arguments.

    even on this issue i respect your and others views on this subject
    but i also respect alternative views

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