howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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We'll have to see what happens but I suspect that across the continent the far right has reached its peak and will carry on doing deals to have influence in National Governments.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/steve-bannon-moving-europe-movement-foundation-far-right-wing-politics-george-soros-a8458641.htmlBrian Dixon
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#2
ww3, them verses us,.
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I suspect that Trump is behind this , and his cash ?
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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I thought him and Bannon had fallen out.
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they have officially nothing more for him in the white house, too restrictive, Trumps bigger picture is to end the cold war and dismantle the globalists.
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I have always thought "Trumps bigger picture" was to make some very handy business connections for when he is no longer the President, a shining example being his friend Putin.
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Yawwwwwnann.... I hope and pray for a far right " revolution " blast away political correctness cultural Marxism sick anti white hate the suppression of European culture and the destruction of the new world order ....
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Al1967 wrote:Yawwwwwnann.... I hope and pray for a far right " revolution " blast away political correctness cultural Marxism sick anti white hate the suppression of European culture and the destruction of the new world order ....
Come the glorious day Citizen, you will be first up against that wall.
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Along with the Marketing Department of the Sirius Cybernetics Corporation.
(Not my real name.)
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"Share and enjoy!"
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Courtesy of the Times - irresponsible statements from some politicians causes such behaviour.
Police used water cannon and tear gas to attempt to disperse about 5,000 far-right demonstrators who gathered in Chemnitz last night, some of whom were performing Hitler salutes and chanting “foreigners out” and “we are the people”. Neo-Nazis from across Germany travelled to the eastern city, which is close to the Czech border, to join the protest after the killing of a 35-year-old German man of Cuban origin who was stabbed in a fight on Saturday night. Police have arrested one man from Syria and one from Iraq on suspicion of manslaughter. About 1,000 counter-demonstrators also gathered and the two groups hurled bottles and shot fireworks at each other. At least six people were injured.
Police admitted that they had underestimated the scale of the demonstration and did not deploy enough officers to contain the protest. They made no arrests but said today they had launched ten investigations against demonstrators who made the Hitler salute, which is a crime in Germany and carries a sentence of up to five years in prison. At a protest on Sunday evening, neo-Nazis ran through the streets chasing and kicking anyone who looked like an immigrant, eyewitnesses and media reports said. Political analysts said that they were alarmed at the speed with which Germany’s right-wing movements — neo-Nazis, football hooligans, the anti-immigrant Pegida group and Alternative for Germany (AfD) — could join forces and mobilise protesters through social media. “Nazis rehearsed civil war in Chemnitz on Monday night,” the left-wing Berlin newspaper Tageszeitung wrote. A reporter for Der Spiegel wrote: “Of course history doesn’t repeat itself but a right-wing mob rampaging in the middle of Germany and state authorities being unable to handle it reminds one to some extent of conditions in the Weimar Republic.”
A spokesman for Angela Merkel, the chancellor, yesterday condemned the violence. It has fuelled concern that public support for far-right, anti-immigrant groups is mounting after the arrival of 1.6 million refugees since 2014. “There is an unashamed upsurge in racism,” Robert Lüdecke, an analyst at the Amadeu Antonio foundation, a German civil rights group, said. ”Society has become heavily polarised. People are becoming increasingly blatant about what people they want to have in Germany and who they don’t.”
MPs from the far-right AfD, the third-biggest party in the German parliament, appeared to support vigilantism. One MP, Markus Frohnmaier, tweeted that people had a civic duty to stop “knife migration”. Another, Udo Hemmelgarn, tweeted: “The problem isn’t the peaceful protests by the brave people of Chemnitz against criminal Muslim migrants, it is the rapes and murders by illegal immigrants, migrant violence!” The unrest and failure of the police to contain it is being compared with the violence in Rostock in 1992 when a mob, applauded by thousands of residents, hurled stones and petrol bombs at an apartment block where asylum-seekers lived. “We are witnessing outbreaks of xenophobia that are shameful and disgusting for Germany especially against the background of our history,” Bild, Germany’s biggest selling tabloid newspaper, wrote in a commentary.
Chemnitz is the third-biggest city in Saxony. The AfD emerged as the biggest party in the state in the general election in September last year, taking 27 per cent of the vote, slightly more than Mrs Merkel’s Christian Democratic Union. The city was one the bases of the neo-Nazi terrorist cell National Socialist Underground that murdered ten people, most of them Turkish immigrants, between 2000 and 2007.
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Courtesy of the Times.
The far-right Alternative for Germany party has overtaken the Social Democrats to become the second-strongest force in politics in the country, according to a poll conducted after the Chemnitz anti-immigrant riots. The AfD enjoys 17 per cent support with the SPD on 16 per cent, and Angela Merkel’s conservative Christian Democratic Union at 28.5 per cent, according to the Insa institute poll. The figures suggest the AfD has succeeded in capitalising on the killing in Chemnitz of Daniel Hillig, a German carpenter of Cuban descent, which triggered the worst neo-Nazi riots in a generation. The survey was conducted for Bild from August 31 to September 3.
Two suspects have been charged with manslaughter in the killing that rekindled anger at Mrs Merkel’s open-door policy, although the interior ministry said yesterday that the heritage of the two men had not been established beyond doubt. They were initially described as a 22-year-old Iraqi and a 23-year-old Syrian. Hans Strobl, the Saxony state prosecutor, added that the Chemnitz district court had issued an arrest warrant for a third suspect, Farahan Ramazan Ahmad, a 22-year-old asylum seeker from Iraq, following new testimony from eyewitnesses and from one of the two suspects who are in custody.
The AfD supported last week’s protests, during which immigrants were chased through the streets and demonstrators gave the Hitler salute as thousands of neo-Nazis from across Germany descended on the city. Beatrix von Storch, the AfD deputy parliamentary group leader, caused controversy by condemning an anti-racism concert that was held in Chemnitz on Monday and which attracted 65,000 people. “You are Merkel’s subjects, you are disgusting and you are dancing on graves,” she tweeted.
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One German citizen said something like, 'It is a shame that the demonstration about the killing has got more reaction from our politicians than the murder itself.'
The demonstrators were chanting, amongst other stuff of course, 'The lying press'.
In Germany, demonstrators have an allocated time, and if they over run, the police have to attend in riot gear.
The press seem to have had a field day for emotive expressions and exaggerations, when at the end of these 'far right riots', and 'right wing mobs rampaging in the streets of Germany', there were no arrests, and six people were injured. The most serious crime that appears to have been committed was that of giving a 'Hitler salute', which are being investigated retrospectively.
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A view from Sweden courtesy of the Times.
Sweden is full. It cannot take any more refugees. Those who are already here should pledge their loyalty to secular Swedish values or lose their benefits. Multiculturalism has failed. It is time to enforce a single “majority culture” instead. These are an unlikely set of views for a man who was born in Iran and granted asylum by Sweden at the age of five. But Nima Gholam Ali Pour is one of tens of thousands of migrants, and more than a million Swedes, who have turned to a radical right-wing party that is poised to shatter the country’s cosy political consensus.
Nima Gholam Ali Pour is one of thousands of migrants backing the Sweden Democrats. Tomorrow Sweden faces the most tumultuous election in its modern history. Polls indicate that one in five voters will back the Sweden Democrats, a party shunned by the establishment for its white supremacist origins and its ambition to close the borders to all asylum seekers. After years of being dismissed as cranks and xenophobes, the party will wield the balance of power in one of Europe’s richest nations. Like many Swedes, Mr Gholam Ali Pour’s journey from centre-left to the populist right was born of frustration at mainstream politicians’ squeamishness about migration. The 36-year-old former teacher used to belong to the Social Democrats, who have been the country’s largest party for more than a century. In 2013, when he says his local branch in Malmo appointed an Islamist to its governing board, he quit in disgust. He cast around for a party that would talk frankly about Sweden’s race problems. He found the Sweden Democrats. Within five years he had become their political secretary in Malmo, a city of 340,000 people. Mr Gholam Ali Pour argues that his party has come a long way since its dark days in the early Nineties. Two successive leaders — the incumbent is Jimmie Akesson, a hipsterish former web designer — have purged the party and tried to fashion it into a respectable electoral force.
“Sure, a lot of people who have racist ideas come into the party,” Mr Gholam Ali Pour said. “But we throw them out. It’s a pain in the arse, them coming in. It’s a lot of work.” Sweden Democrats no longer talk about ensuring the survival of the white race, at least in public. The blanket condemnation of Islam has disappeared. In its place are centrist, crowd-pleasing pledges such as a boost to health spending.
What is really for sale, though, is nationalism. Even before a record 134,000 asylum seekers came to Sweden in 2015, the country had struggled to digest its immigrants, many of whom are clustered in poor suburbs that have effectively become ghettos. The most infamous of these is Rosengard, where Mr Gholam Ali Pour spent his first years in Sweden. Only one in 20 children in Rosengard’s primary schools has Swedish parents. Fewer than two out of five adults have jobs. Gang crime and violence are rife. In January two men bombed the police station. A 16-year-old Iraqi boy was shot dead at a bus stop last year. These troubles are not unique to Rosengard. The murder rate for Malmo as a whole is three times as high as London’s. “Last night there was a person who got killed right outside my front door — shot,” said Noria Manouchi, 27, a Swedish-Tunisian city councillor and parliamentary candidate for the centre-right Moderate party who lives in Hermodsdal, a mile to the south of Rosengard.
“That’s a part of everyday life where I live, and has been all my life,” she said. “Politicians have made the wrong priorities for so long that the city is cut in half. It’s very segregated.” The Sweden Democrats’ clean-up has come at the right time for them to take advantage of these divisions. Why, it argues, should refugees get full social benefits and an easy five-year path to citizenship if they cannot speak Swedish or respect basic norms such as shaking hands with women? Some, however, are unpersuaded. Arwin Sohrabi, 24, who is campaigning for the Social Democrats, said: “I think a lot of it is on the surface. They realised you can get a lot further in politics if you put on a fancy suit.”He points out that the number of Malmo residents who depend on social benefits has fallen for three years. School results are improving and unemployment declining. Five minutes later an Arab woman with a limp and a Syrian flag on her baseball cap approaches the bins behind the Social Democrat cabin. She picks up a discarded Burger King bag, sniffs its contents and stashes it in her jacket.
So long as this other Sweden lurks behind the façade of a prosperous and happy nation, the Sweden Democrats will be here to stay.
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An acquaintance of mine lives in Malmo, and has told me about the violence and stabbings that go on very near to where she lives, to the extent that she will no longer go shopping on her own. The last time I was in southern Sweden I drove into Malmo, and I felt as if I was in a no-go area, getting filthy looks as I drove along, especially when we stopped at traffic lights, so I turned the car around and got out after ten minutes. Normally Sweden is a very friendly and welcoming place.
In many of the smaller towns there are beggars, all of whom appear to be non Swedish, and there are even regular beggars at the out of town shopping malls.
I have been told that a lot of the violence is to do with the distribution and dealing of illegal drugs, previously the almost exclusive domain of the biker gangs, who have now been overtaken by immigrant gangs.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Will be interesting to see what deals are done to keep the Swedish Democrats from having too much influence.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/sep/09/swedish-election-far-right-on-course-for-sizeable-gains-in-votehoward mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Batten has looked some other European countries and thinks that taking UKIP to the far right will make the party effective here, Farage knows the reality of UK politics.
https://news.sky.com/story/ukip-leader-gerard-batten-criticised-by-nigel-farage-for-endorsing-anti-muslim-rally-11500884
