Keith Sansum1
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tosh barryw!!!!! lol
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Brian Dixon
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Keith Sansum1 wrote:tosh barryw!!!!! lol
none so deaf as those who do not wish to hear, still everyone has a view
even if they can't articulate it properly
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i will trump keith's tosh with utter balderdash.
over to you barry.
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I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
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Keith - as I have said many times before the attitudes that you display demonstrate why the Labour Party has been such a disaster for the poor and vulnerable in every period they have been in government.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Peter
your showing your true colours again
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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just the one colour keith, a rather fetching blue.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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he won't like that howard
and will deny
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Guest 725- Registered: 7 Oct 2011
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Sorry chaps but Barry is essentially correct in what he says. Unfortunately the usual left wing way is to stick fingers in ears, shout la la la and say stupid things like "I bet you vote UKIP" because that's all they have left. When the evidence is staring them in the face that labour have helped to destroy any hopes of aspirations for the working class they resort to ad hominem slurs.
Labour is not the friend of the working classes, the downtrodden or those trying to make the best of their life.
Unfortunately neither are the tories or the liberals.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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And you think UKIP Is???
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Guest 725- Registered: 7 Oct 2011
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Who said anything about UKIP? Not me.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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2nd line post 3550
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Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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# 3543.....`even if they can't articulate it properly``....oh dear Peter ....slipping back into the
John Clees and two ronnies mode again.....
Guest 725- Registered: 7 Oct 2011
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That was in a different life. I've changed.
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Like the Climate PhilipP ?
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Oh cripes! They've got to you too Reg? It's the zombie apocalypse so it is.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Well you mentioned UKIP in that post Philip not me
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Energy companies 'making £650m a year from billing errors'
Survey reveals 28% of customers were overcharged an average of £121 - and move to online billing is making matters worse
Energy companies were accused of "daylight robbery" last night after a survey indicated that more than a quarter of customers are being overcharged through mistakes on their bills.
The average error was worth £121 a year in the energy company's favour, suggesting that errors benefit companies to the tune of at least £650m annually and possibly much more.
Clare Welton, from the Fuel Poverty Action campaign group, said that with average annual energy bills from the Big Six suppliers now approaching £1,500 per household after a series of price rises, she would expect the "profiteers" to charge the correct amount.
"This daylight robbery disguised as sloppy service from energy companies is yet another blow to the idea that the Big Six, or any bodies that put profit before people's needs, are in any way suitable to be running our energy system," she said.
The survey was undertaken with the help of 2,000 people around the country by the consultancy firm Consumer Intelligence. Researchers were working on a brief from the Keep Me Posted group, which is opposed to the phasing-out of paper bills.
Almost a third of those polled, 30%, found an error on their energy bill, and 28% had been overcharged by an average of £121, according to the research.
Over 40% of people who receive paper bills noticed an error on their bill, compared with just 29% of those receiving their bills online. Younger people are particularly affected by "online blindness" as only 9% of 18-24-year-olds who receive their bills online say they check them for errors,
Full story Guardian
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Yet another ill-conceived policy to help their ``friends``.........
The bankers making millions from the Royal Mail firesale
Goldman Sachs and UBS are among banks and investors who control vast numbers of the shares
They were hired by the Government to help sell one of its most valuable and historic assets - and were paid millions of pounds in fees for their work valuing Royal Mail ahead of its flotation last month.
Goldman Sachs and UBS priced the company at £3.30-a-share, raising the taxpayer £1.7bn from the sale. But shares instantly soared in value and have remained high ever since. At tonight's closing price of 545p more than a month after the initial public offering, the public purse would be more than £1bn better off. The official share register, obtained by The Independent, shows there were 518 separate entities holding more than 5,000 Royal Mail shares by the end of October. City firms applied for more than 20 times the number of shares available - and both Goldman Sachs and UBS have piled in to the frenzy.
Goldman Sachs International had brokered deals on 21.5 million shares worth around £123m by 31 October, the document shows. The bank insists it bought the shares on behalf of clients and says it hasn't acquired any for itself. UBS had also bought 375,000 shares. Again, it claims to be holding the stock on behalf of third parties.
The low flotation price has turned into a major political headache for the Government - particularly when its rival, JP Morgan, valued Royal Mail at between £6.8bn and £8.5bn. Vince Cable opted for Goldman and UBS because they offered to do the job for £13m - a saving of just £1m from the nearest competing bid. The fact that Goldmans is now a significant shareholder, a fact first reported by Private Eye, will prove embarrassing for the Business Secretary.
Today the Bow Group think-tank led by Sir John Major called for an inquiry into the flotation. It said the company had been "catastrophically undervalued", claiming that the privatisation was a "short-sighted firesale", which has deprived taxpayers of a "valuable national asset".
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson