Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,931
#21
My definition of "wrong leader" are the ones who really does not care about the people, country or party only their political career and themselves.
At the moment far too many enter politics simply to get the misguided sense of power plus local or national fame rather than deep felt conviction.
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Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,948
#22
I think to a point Jan's correct
There's also some seats that remain in a parties hands even though that cllr does little in the ward..
On the national arena leaders do come and go but its important for democracy to have a good opposition holding the govt to account
Under the present system only 1 of 2 parties will ever be the govt and so the present
Opposition if it moves away from the left will lose membership
And as seen in the Blair years not replace them with foot soldiers
Although its good to have a radical agenda it needs to also have public support which I think will take many years to achieve
In the local arena cllrs need to engage with communities all the year round
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Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
#23
democracy, we have no idea what that is any more, more like a dictateship. do as I say, not what I do thingy
Captain Haddock
- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 8,397
#24
Captain Haddock wrote:The problem for Labour is who is there to succeed Jezza. Listening to the radio this morning it would appear to be a choice between:-
1. That thick Northern girl.
2. That thick Brummie girl.
3. That REALLY thick Northern girl.
Tick!
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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- Posts: 8,397
#25
Meanwhile the thick Northern one sticks to the Jezza line:-
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Weird Granny Slater
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 7 Jun 2017
- Posts: 3,095
#26
What is '?s=20' anyway? An incomplete equation? White supremacist code? Technical incompetence?
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Pablo- Registered: 21 Mar 2018
- Posts: 614
#27
##26, who will you vote for, Bob?
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 8,397
#28
Pablo wrote:##26, who will you vote for, Bob?
Last time I used my six votes for Corbyn.
I was hoping to vote this time for Lammy but he's pulled out.
Will wait for final list and decide where I can cause most damage.
(Yup. '?S=20' is technical incompetence which happens whenever I copy and paste from Twitter and can't be bothered to re-open post and delete)
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Pablo- Registered: 21 Mar 2018
- Posts: 614
#29
There was me thinking you would want Burgon to run!
Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
- Registered: 7 Jun 2017
- Posts: 3,095
#30
What I want to know is why all these parliamentary lads and lasses are standing for the Dover branch when they ought to be up for the party leadership itself.
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Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,931
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
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#32
On the local front I'm still waiting for them to get involved in communities
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Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 6,025
#33
I think you find they are .!!
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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#34
Hi Sue
I'm pleased to hear that and look forward to seeing them in our community where people have lost faith in them
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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#35
Hi Sue
I'm pleased to hear that and look forward to seeing them in our community where people have lost faith in them
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Gary39- Registered: 7 Jul 2017
- Posts: 454
#36
I have yet to see anything invested in Aycliffe from any of the DTC or DCC....even all the complaints about Dover TAP.. no one cares..
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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#37
Well it's up to local politicians to stick up for locals
The danger we saw under the council boundarary changes involved sitting cllrs from both major parties protecting there own wards and not looking at the wider implications
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Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
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#38
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-51195059
And then there were four. I wonder who will be the Captain's next target for his version of humour.
Sorry wrong thread.
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Guest 1571- Registered: 24 Aug 2015
- Posts: 71
#39
Dolly wrote:Charlotte Cornell was an amazing candidate and the loss in votes was to do with Brexit. Tories and labour lost vote share in remain constituencies, but while Tories gained vote share in leave constituencies, Labour lost over 10% in leave Constituencies. Popularity of the candidate had little to do with this.
Sorry but 2017 was fought on brexit...so how you try and use that excuse is beyond me. Labour had Corbyn as a leader both times. So you cannot blame that.
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Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
- Posts: 1,300
#40
The good thing for Labour now is that it doesn't have to worry about Brexit, rather, the Government does.
With COVID19 about to place a huge dent in the economy, followed by an inevitably clumsy Brexit, Labour can hammer the Tories big time. IF ONLY THEY GOT ON WITH ELECTING A LEADER!!!!
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