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    Hi Chaz
    For me I'm to busy to worry about whether or not local Labour achieves a dream which I feel
    If the face book page is anything to go by they are still struggling to accept alternative views.

    Danger here is another 25 years
    I believe this will happen unless they change
    Thankfully Mrs Woods to whom you refer local people voted her out,

    Having had 2 years battling against cllrs from tory, Labour and so called independents,
    I was happy to see if a new incoming group of cllrs might see a change.
    Sadly not...

    To get back to the points you make, I attempted 3 times to get labour to debate the issue of 3 councils, they surprized me without debate saying DDC tory run was not poorly run.
    Come the next election they will have a hard job saying they want to run DDC as they have said the tories are running it well
    Political own goal?

    The 2 seasoned politicians who chose to look at pre judging if any future post can go on the page is not the socialism I know, but each to there own.
    If I didn't explain further (even though I had 3 times) the sanction according to Mr Howden
    Was going to come in
    They didn't want to call it a ban
    Because that doesn't sound good.
    What it does do is give you a small flavour of local Labour not learning.

    I'm always happy to openly discuss/debate
    And Mr Howden, Ann Ray could have supported tax payers money being spent to support 3 councils
    But they preferred not to debate it at all. And instead threaten sanctions
    That's not a forward looking socialist party

    Still I'm going back to help the people in my community

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