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    Ross, seriouusly, you talk to any of the major players and the mantra is always the same, from BCCI investment through White Cliffs Experience to DTIZ et al.

    'Well at least we didn't lose any money on it'

    FFS This is honestly how they measure their success!

    It's no wonder that the local definition of a 'successful Dover businessman' is someone who hasn't quite managed to go bankrupt over the past few decades, which is why Dover is basically full of people who never got out of Dover as they would not survive elsewhere and those who came to Dover as local low expectations fitted in nicely with their limited talent.

    (BTW If it were to take 5+ years for the 'investments' to start making a return who will be paying the 'experts' from the consultants who will be 'advising us on our investments'? Because at least the councillors, for once, have had the modesty to admit that whilst they think they know what they are doing they don't know how to do it.

    It would be funny if it was not our money involved.)

    Thank God no-one with my views ended up standing for KCC. That could have derailed the gravy train AND upset the apple cart in one move!

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