Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Interesting reading .Lotsof questions and motions.An interesting report on staff restructuring.Mainly CE reduction in hours.Management team will then be very light.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Ok Sue I will be the first to break ranks and ask when the meeting was held and whether it was cabinet or full council.
Captain Haddock
- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Next week. Full council. Agenda on DDC web page.
"The world is still a weird place, despite my efforts to make clear and perfect sense of it".
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Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
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To be fair there was (probably still is) senior staff at least 3 tiers many earning over £50,000
look at Dover Town centre
I rest my case
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Sue Nicholas- Location: river
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I suggest you read the agenda Keith..DDC have always had a man or woman at the top.Less Councillors .less management.going to the wall.
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
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Howard I always check DDC Calendar of meetings .
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Sue
Is there anything else other than a man or woman????
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Sue Nicholas- Location: river
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Well Keith at DDC it’s always been a man but did not wish to offend .
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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I have no idea where your coming from
Does it matter which it is
What I M saying is and I'm sure it's same we have officers earning a lot of money
And town centre dies
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Sue Nicholas- Location: river
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You are not on my wave length Keith.I was drawing forum members attention to the fact DDC management team is to be reduced.Keith you have to have managers.You have this crazy idea about how much money they earn .If people study gain qualifications etc they become the bosses.You will always have people on higher salaries.
what’s it got to do with the Dover High Street.Read Bobs postings.
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
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I think the point Keith was making is that high salary has to be justified and deserved by that person.
A qualification is useless if it is not used correctly it is just a piece of paper.
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Sue Nicholas- Location: river
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I think the Officers at DDC are worthy.You cannot blame Officers for the behaviour of some people as happened last weekend graphti everywhere.People who don’t clear up after dogs.,so it goes on.The problem with the shops in Dover they don’t sell what we need.Too many coffee shops and cheap shops.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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I think Jan has picked up where I'm coming from
So let's get back to it
I have no problem with senior officers earning a basic wage and if they inspire Dover then increase wage
But Dover is dieing
Unfortunately sue your party believes in let the market forces decide therefore we end up with the shops you quote
Although the cafes appear to be doing OK
And yes it does affect the town centre who the officers are
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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I thought we all agreed that a lot of traditional town centre shops cannot make a profit anymore and hospitality and service types of businesses will take their place. As Keef says cafes all seem to do well.
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Sue Nicholas- Location: river
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Well most of the Councillors for that part of the district are Labour ..
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Sue
As your aware until May the majority of councillirs are your latest party
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Sue Nicholas- Location: river
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Yes but Sandwich Deal are Tory .So It’s Labour bar one on DDC and Labour Town Council.So far Love Dover and Dickens shored up by scaffolding .
Just saying .
Ross Miller
- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
- Posts: 3,709
There is zero causal link between officers pay and the economic fortunes of any given place
Officers are not paid to inspire, they are paid to deliver the ruling parties policies and underlying statutory requirements, the fact that many officers go beyond this is laudable and should be recognised.
It is the role of our elected members to inspire, show leadership, show sound judgement etc.
I will leave you to join the dots and work out who is really failing towns and districts like Dover
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Sue Nicholas- Location: river
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Ross wise words.Yes Councillors should inspire...My motto .
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
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Ross I appreciate all you do.
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