Matey
- Location: Dover
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When we think back about the European Union, we never really went fully into did we? We kept miles per hour, not kilometres, driving on the left, road signs are in yards, we kept the pound, some weights and measures were a mixture of metric/imperial. Our culture remained unchanged very much and the law only changed a little. Was it worth (thanks to Ted Heath) even joining it in the first place? Even Maggie turned against it, all those monthly contributions…..
Life without a dog is like a salad without lettuce.
ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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My little moment of schadenfreude. If you didn't laugh, you'd surely cry.
Captain Haddock
- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
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But getting out of Eurovision was the main reason I voted for Brexit .......

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"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
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ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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Captain Haddock wrote:But getting out of Eurovision was the main reason I voted for Brexit .......
That's one thing I could relate to. But it's still quite hilarious to see these buffoons finally realising that the population has seen through their interminable BS.
ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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Brexiteers at their intellectual best at NatCon conference. No wonder we're in such a mess.
https://www.facebook.com/watch?v=639458487615412Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
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Three years on from Brexiting, we have:
1. Higher taxes
2. Higher mortgages
3. Higher inflation
4. Higher legal migration
5. Higher illegal migration
6. local workers replaced by foreign workers on P&O!
Honestly, even I didn't expect it to be quite that bad!
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Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
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I'm no great supporter of Brexit
But our Starmer appears clueless on it
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Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
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At the moment he's saying he'll improve the current deal, without saying how. I'll be interested to see what more he thinks can be done - and given Sunak is actually quite sensible, he'd probably see it the same way anyway.
Captain Haddock
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Germany's economy is in recession. It contracted by 0.3% during Q1 2023, as revised down from an initial estimate of no growth. This means a second consecutive quarter of economic decline, meeting the technical definition of a recession for Europe's largest economy.
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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Captain Haddock wrote:Germany's economy is in recession. It contracted by 0.3% during Q1 2023, as revised down from an initial estimate of no growth. This means a second consecutive quarter of economic decline, meeting the technical definition of a recession for Europe's largest economy.
All of which proves, of course, that Brexit has been an enormous success - food prices have fallen (just as that luminary Rees-Mogg promised), we've taken back control (er, immigration figures?), the Northern Irish question was merely and red herring and, oh yes, the NHS is now functioning at previously unimaginable levels due to its £350m weekly Brexit bonus.
I know you like your deflection techniques but this makes Trump look positively magnanimous.
Captain Haddock
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"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Captain Haddock
- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 8,075
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Dover Pilot- Registered: 28 Jul 2018
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Captain Haddock
- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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The UK has lost the habit of thinking strategically. Grappling with the constraints imposed by the global and domestic economies — or reality as it is sometimes known — is deeply out of fashion these days.
Debates on how the UK might respond to Joe Biden’s Inflation Reduction Act and its near $400bn of green subsidies are the latest example. The government, and economic liberals, want to wish away such protectionism, while for green campaigners and much of corporate Britain it proves we should do exactly the same thing here. The Institute of Directors says “the UK deserves nothing less than its own version of the Inflation Reduction Act — to ensure that the UK becomes the global location of choice for all [my emphasis] forms of green investment.”
FT
And as for EU subsidies .......
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
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ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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And this is the Capn's risible deflection tactics on a parliamentary scale. Watch in disbelief and then realise that these charlatans are representing you.
Captain Haddock
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Mea culpa Ray. Apparently the future is based upon fruit export rather than AI and Green Technology.
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ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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Captain Haddock wrote:Mea culpa Ray. Apparently the future is based upon fruit export rather than AI and Green Technology.
The future is based on a diverse range of services and industries, both manufacturing and agricultural. My post was simply a demonstration of the BS tactics used by Brexiteers to try to disguise the adverse effects of their stupidity.
We threw away all our IT advantages in the Thatcher era when she insisted on selling off the likes of ICL, Plessey. Ferranti et al to suit her privatised dreams. Meanwhile, in Taiwan, a new government backed company was emerging called the Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company. I wonder how they're doing today?
We had the world's best designers of computers chips - a company called ARM. Ever heard of them? We flogged them to the Japanese and they chose the NY stock exchange. Let me refresh your memory - "Arm chooses New York for key technology listing in 'kick in the teeth' for London. British microchip company Arm will float in New York rather than London this year, dealing a major blow to Rishi Sunak's ambitions to make the City the first choice for tech company flotations."
And please don't tell me how Brexit has enhanced the UK's Green economical potential. After I've recovered from laughing paralysis I might just be able to post some facts. Arguing with the uncomprehending has never been my strong point. If it was, I might just start replying to the AI chatbot lady currently infesting this forum.
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Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
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Core inflation up again (correction - not falling at the rate expected), mortgages to rise again. Immigration (legal and illegal) at record levels. Imagine the chaos if we hadn't had Brexit to stop all this!

Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
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Neil
I'm not sure Labour's plan on immigration is any better than the tories, that bits of policies I could find!
Labour isn't looking like a govt in waiting, is looking like just another anti working people's party!
As you feel the Tories are doing so badly Neil , why do you think your friends in Wirral council don t think this is the case?
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