ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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This from yesterday's Telegraph, of all the papers. Finally, amidst all the confusion and incompetence emenating from back in 2016, the penny is finally dropping in even the most extreme quarters.
Project Fear was right all along
Six years of policy confusion and ineptitude has brought a calamitous loss of standing.
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ray hutstone wrote:This from yesterday's Telegraph, of all the papers. Finally, amidst all the confusion and incompetence emenating from back in 2016, the penny is finally dropping in even the most extreme quarters.
Project Fear was right all along
Six years of policy confusion and ineptitude has brought a calamitous loss of standing.
Logically, if a substantial number of Tory MPs writes letters we could have another vote on EU membership to see if we come up with the right answer
this time!
In real life, however, we have Natalie's speech to look forward to tomorrow, which is said will include her worry that 'lorries carrying “dangerous and defective” goods and food are entering the UK from the EU.' It'll be interesting to see her evidence that this is an appreciable risk against the backdrop of other Unionists (and Guston residents?) wanting fewer checks around the periphery of the EU Single Market.
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ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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Meanwhile, even the most deluded extremists are beginning to grasp reality.....
The Telegraph has taken a bite of humble pie following years of political ineptitude in Westminster.
Assistant editor Jeremy Warner admitted that the past six years have brought a “calamitous loss of standing” for Britain as it battles to maintain its status on the world stage.
He said: “Downbeat predictions by the Treasury and others on the economic consequences of leaving the EU, contemptuously dismissed at the time by Brexit campaigners as “Project Fear”, have been on a long fuse, but they have turned out to be overwhelmingly correct, and if anything have underestimated both the calamitous loss of international standing and the scale of the damage that six years of policy confusion and ineptitude has imposed on the country.” 
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I see the British media can barely contain themselves, gushing over the Brazilian election victory for Lula over 50.9% of the vote to Bolsonaro’s 49.1%.
Well the UK voted to leave the EU by 52% to 48% 6 years ago.
Get over it losers!
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
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ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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Captain Haddock wrote:I see the British media can barely contain themselves, gushing over the Brazilian election victory for Lula over 50.9% of the vote to Bolsonaro’s 49.1%.
Well the UK voted to leave the EU by 52% to 48% 6 years ago.
Get over it losers!
Yep. It's good that people have the right to vote for change when things are going badly.
ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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From this week's Private Eye. A measure of the trust I have in our new PM.
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Even the Beeb has finally accepted reality and began to report the facts.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-63596773
The first year of the pandemic damaged the UK more than most economies. This was the textbook expectation from many economic experts of the government's approach to post-Brexit policy. It is more difficult for small businesses, especially, to trade with Europe, and the UK, by design, now has more limited access to pools of European workers. As a result the economy is less productive, less resilient, less flexible and less responsive.Brian Dixon likes this
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And talking of facts:-
Did the NHS receive £350 million more a week after Brexit? No. It is receiving more.
Meanwhile in Belgium
https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2022/09/21/thousands-protest-in-brussels-against-cost-of-living-crisis"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
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Good show, be able to bump-up the number of those much-needed diversity posts then?
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ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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And how much of this money will be channelled through the NHS into private health care?
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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What, like my (and yours) GP practice?
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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Captain Haddock wrote:What, like my (and yours) GP practice?
Yes. Exactly. So much more money is being pumped into the NHS that we now end up with this.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2022/nov/20/gps-in-england-treat-up-to-three-times-more-patients-than-safety-limit-demandsray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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Reality continues to bite.
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And here's just one of the reasons why. Rather amusing to see GB news confronted by harsh reality.
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Although being outside the Single Market affects different sectors differently, I think there's a danger in holding re-entry to the SM as a panacea to all industry's perceived woes. Meanwhile, David Frost appears to think that "Ultra-Remainer" meddling kids are at work:
https://www.gbnews.uk/news/lord-frost-warns-of-ultra-remainer-plot-to-rejoin-eu/267133#:~:text=Former%20Brexit%20negotiator%20Lord%20David%20Frost%20has%20warned,%E2%80%9Cmuch%20easier%20to%20take%20us%20back%20in%20later%E2%80%9D. Do you think he means you, Ray?
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ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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I agree with you, Button. In a quandary of Brexit's magnitude, there could never such a thing as a single panacea.
As for Mr. Frost, well. The 3rd rate whisky salesman who lumbered us with the worst trade deal in history, collected his peerage and then buggered off never to be seen again apart from sporadic outbursts of unadulterated guff on GBBeebies.
Why would anyone in their right mind give a monkey's what he thinks?
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The reason farmers are 'struggling to cope' is because they are happier to import cheap labour (for which you and I pay the cost of housing/NHS/education for them and their dependents) rather than investing in mechanisation.
The same goes for most 'grunt' jobs.
There's loads of YouTube videos around showing what's going on in the rest of the world.
Here's a couple at random
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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I'm guessing that you're one of the 4% who still believes in the Brexit unicorns. I'd love to see you try to pick strawberries with one of them! And have you ever wondered why there might be a lack of investment?
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"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
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Apr 12, 2022
“Some people may look at this and say – oh – they’re putting people out of work. That’s not the case,” Wishnatzki said. “The domestic people aren’t showing up anymore. But the ones that do show up, there’s going to be jobs for them. And they’re going to be better higher-paying jobs. It’s not going to be the backbreaking work of stooping over and picking strawberries all day. It’ll be the technical jobs. It’ll be the mechanical jobs. And I think they pay more and are better for people.”
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
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