Reginald Barrington
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 17 Dec 2014
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Very true, comments of that nature from senior political figures, morons or otherwise
only legitimize it in these peoples minds, sadly too often our political leaders make throw away comments that enthuse the extremists.
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Arte et Marte
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Yobbish behaviour over politics has become the norm, yesterday it was the unemployed far right tomorrow it could be Jezza's storm troopers, both sides blame everyone but themselves for the situation they find themselves in.
The police find it easier to nick people who post on forums and act purely as stewards when really nasty stuff happens in front of their eyes.
ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
- Posts: 2,158
I have no problem at all with direct action that may involve name calling, chanting or even the presence of large numbers. I really couldn't care less that Soubry was called a "nazi" or Rees-Mogg "not a very nice man" outside his own home.
But in this current febrile atmosphere (to borrow the Beeb's mandatory everyday adjective) and with so many blatant nutters around, I think that the time has come to be more prudent. If you take a look at the profile of some of these people then who could be sure that none of them was carrying a knife, for example? It may not have been violent in the strict legal sense but it was certainly, by any definition, harassment.
Politicians, like anyone else, must have a right to go to and from their place of work without fear. Anyone else old enough to remember the miners' strike?
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Weird Granny Slater
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 7 Jun 2017
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ray hutstone wrote:Anyone else old enough to remember the miners' strike?
Yes, and I still have my signed copy of the script of Mike Leigh's Abigail's Party which I won in a fundraising auction at the United Reformed Church to prove it. As I recall, miners
were seeking 'to go to and from their place of work without fear', i.e. that fear being of pit closures, job losses and the dole.
Not sure what it's got to do with the subject, though. Politicans are rather more than just people going to and from their place of work. They're policy-makers and law-makers, and enjoy a remoteness in a system that's designed to restrict our democratic participation to a pretty meaningless vote every 5 years (or the odd referendum, which they didn't like the result of in any case). It's no wonder people feel disenfranchised, alienated, voiceless, frustrated and angry. Protest is a function of this democratic lack. Surely most politicians have had worse at the hustings. And anyone with a sense of British political history will see that we only arrived at this limited democracy after a series of not-so-merry dances between authority and protest.
'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
Captain Haddock
- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 8,171
BBC Radio 4 Today
Verified account @BBCr4today
6h6 hours ago
Deputy Calais Mayor says they are preparing for a no-deal Brexit and "we will be ready". No more trucks will be stopped crossing the Channel than at present, he says. The UK Government's efforts to move trade away from Calais to other ports are "shocking" and "disrespectful".
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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I never understood why politicians including our Charlie thought that a go slow would be operated in Calais - no benefit to anybody.
The Deputy Mayor of Calais is rightly concerned about losing business but has no say in what documents customs will demand on arrival at the port.
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Button
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 22 Jul 2016
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Quite, Mr McS. The Express reports that he said:
"For the 29th March, we will be ready. When the transport minister came to Calais, we told him we would be ready. We will not check trucks more than we are today with the migrants.
"The only thing we will be asking for is the customs declaration but we will not stop or ask more than we are doing today. If somebody has forgotten or not done this declaration we have been preparing a special parking and checking area for this driver to do the job.
"So that will in no way be slowing down the traffic. There will be no delay - the trucks will be passing as they are doing today."
He's a politician, so I expect he knows exactly what he's talking about.
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(Not my real name.)
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Can't say we have not been warned.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Yet more underhand stuff and large wads of money given to consultants to carry out work our top civil servants are paid to do.
Warning to Ray, the word "F@brile" appears in the article.
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Jan Higgins
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- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
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The powers that be manage to squander our tax money with ease, then have the nerve to say they can not spend more on really important things that affect our everyday lives, another £75m wasted.
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Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
and on top of that mrs mays government has had a second defeat in two days.
Guest 2982- Registered: 20 Nov 2018
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Captain Haddock wrote:Yes totally serious.
If all Comrade Cob says is that he would like a general election and would negotiate a Brexit which is good for jobs and employment then he might as well save his breath.
If he says that Labour will get behind May's agreement, however flawed, but will make sure that the government negotiations over trading terms over the next two years blah blah blah I'd actually have some respect for him.
Would You really have any respect for Corbyn under any circumstances ?
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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The lighter side of leaving.
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Guest 3065- Registered: 10 Jan 2019
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I can't wait for us to leave the EU it will happen by law we have got to now
Guest 3065- Registered: 10 Jan 2019
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Can't wait to get out of the EU it will happen its got to by law now
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Guest 1458- Registered: 16 Jan 2015
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Hi Kimmie......a while time since the Dover Locals eh?
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Guest 3065- Registered: 10 Jan 2019
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Yes lol
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Still waffling away in the Commons to no apparent purpose, nothing has changed since before Christmas so nothing new to debate. Another vote next Tuesday then the PM has until the following Monday to come up with a spiffing wheeze to ward off her doubters. A mere 11 weeks until the big day and nobody seems in much of a hurry.
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
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The trouble with the Tuesday vote will not only about Brexit but also how many MP's are of course selflessly thinking about their own political future.
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