Arthur- Registered: 18 Nov 2020
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‘Birthing people’ - when is this utter madness going to end? I’ll vote for the politician and party who are prepared to put a stop to this rubbish. Stand up for the vast majority of the sensible people in this country who believe in ‘men’ and ‘women’ , who don’t identify as ridiculous genders. If men want to dress in women’s clothes,,or women in men’s clothes ,just get on with it but don’t try to persuade the rest of us that it’s normal! More importantly don’t encourage vulnerable children and adolescents that it’s normal.
The world has gone mad and if a challenge is expressed sensible debate is shut down. This makes me so angry and so sad for our future.
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Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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While I agree with most of Arthur's comment for some transgender people there is more to it than simply wanting to dress as the opposite of their 'visual' birth body.
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Arthur- Registered: 18 Nov 2020
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Jan - don’t be sucked into the current rhetoric surrounding transgender, it’s utter propaganda. I suspect these people have mental illnesses which won’t be cured by changing sex, that’s why some individuals have wanted to change back!
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Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
- Registered: 7 Jun 2017
- Posts: 2,991
Arthur wrote:‘Birthing people’ - when is this utter madness going to end?
Clue: 'progress' is teleologically indeterminate.
Also, you get more of what you subsidise, less of what you tax. It's not accidental that this stuff has intensified over the last 14 years.
'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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Arthur wrote:Jan - don’t be sucked into the current rhetoric surrounding transgender, it’s utter propaganda. I suspect these people have mental illnesses which won’t be cured by changing sex, that’s why some individuals have wanted to change back!
I guess you do not personally know anyone going through gender transformation or you would not make such a biased comment, I do and this was after years of unhappiness.
BTW. He also has to pay for all his medication unlike those taking 'mental illness' medication on the NHS.
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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"Shall we go, you and I, while we can? Through the transitive nightfall of diamonds"
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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New ONS data on the supposedly under-staffed NHS. In England since 2013:
Overall employees: UP 35%
Doctors: UP 37%
Nurses, midwives & health visitors:UP 23%
'Support to clinical staff':UP 45%
'NHS infrastructure and support': UP 41%
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/healthcaresystem/articles/thehealthcareworkforceacrosstheuk/2024
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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More non jobs! At least one of them is with NHS Blood & Transplant?
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Button- Location: Dover
- Registered: 22 Jul 2016
- Posts: 3,009
#108: would you stop posting this stuff please, it's doing my hypertension a power of no good?
(Not my real name.)
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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Button wrote:#108: would you stop posting this stuff please, it's doing my hypertension a power of no good?
As we can do nothing about NHS top brass and their dubious decisions I just find these sort posts rather boring and pointless.
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Sorry Jan & Button (!?) but since Health (as well as Immigration and the Economy) are the most important issues to most voters, I intend to carry on disseminating information which might counter the common narrative (Envy of the world and staffed by overworked underpaid angels).
Might I suggest that you avoid this thread and the one on 'immigration' just as I avoid the one on Dover Athletic?
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/society/trackers/the-most-important-issues-facing-the-country"Shall we go, you and I, while we can? Through the transitive nightfall of diamonds"
Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
- Registered: 7 Jun 2017
- Posts: 2,991
As we can do nothing about [INSERT IRRITATING SUBJECT HERE] I just find this sort of post rather boring and pointless.
I have prepared this cool template (thanks JH) and make it free at the point of use to all disgruntled forum members.
No more need to interrupt that yawn to compose a nicely phrased 'whatever'.
No more fretting over how to convey your perception of the futility of another post's content.
Just copy, amend, and post the template as a response to posts of zero interest. Easy!
Don't forget to remove the square brackets when you're done!
Unhappy posting!
'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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For anyone who like me is seriously interested in health care there is an excellent 12 page Technology Quarterly in the Economist of 30/03 on 'Health and AI' **
** N.B. NOT Artificial Insemination
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Here's some stats on 'waiting times'.
(East Kent Hospitals SIXTH WORST of 215 trusts).
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-68479414
https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-7281/
Keep clapping!
Meanwhile the shadow health secretary insists he’s not put off by unions or ‘middle class Lefties who cry betrayal’ over use of private sector to cut waiting lists adding “The NHS is a service, not a shrine. It is judged by how well it serves the public, not how heavy a price we’re paying for failure.”
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/wes-streeting-nhs-labour-private-sector-b2524953.html"Shall we go, you and I, while we can? Through the transitive nightfall of diamonds"
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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It's almost as though the NHS is being run by Students Union activists!
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Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,790
I doubt any 12yr old boys will be pregnant, but you never know.
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Starmer's found Schrodingers NHS where it is simultaneously the envy of the world and broken beyond repair.
Simultaneously underfunded and employing 1 in 20 adults.
Simultaneously staffed by angels who also need huge numbers of people to tell them how to avoid being racist.
Keeep clapping!
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Some comments on the Darzi eport here:-
https://www.neilobrien.co.uk/p/two-kinds-of-nhs-reform
It concludes:-
As well as investing the money in productivity-enhancing technologies, its arrival should be the opportunity to set up some self-improving dynamics.
The big thing the NHS needs to do, is to get better at caring for older people with multiple health issues in the community, rather than sucking them into expensive hospital care. It is frightening how quickly older people can deteriorate if they get stuck in a hospital bed, even for a day or two.
Getting there is partly about building up primary care capacity, but also about giving GPs the power within the system to move services out of hospital and into the community. Then joining up frail elderly care in general practice with social care.
Darzi is right that the last couple of years have been about getting the system back on its feet post pandemic. The next couple of years need to be about getting self-improvement and productivity moving, and reconfiguring the NHS for an ageing society.
Personally I found it interesting. Others may not.
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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It's all change in the NHS now under Labour.
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