Keith Sansum1
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Today its annouced farmers around the gloucester area have been given permission to kill badgers.
Although the evidence where T.B. comes from and only badgers being culled, even though its been proved T B could have come from the cattle themselves, or domestic cats/dogs etc
you can now, if you want to protect badgers sign the petition on brian may's web site(ex queen guitarist) by going to brianmay.com
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Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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Yes this is a real concern. Taking a slegehammer to crack a nut. Killing terrific animals like this seems a hopeless kind of solution in this day and age. Its almost stone age in its thinking. Money needs to be invested so that scientists can come up with a genuine long term solution. One talking head on the radio said this cull method might check the TB somewhat but it wont cure the problem.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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The odd thing about this is that the experts on both sides have totally differing views; I can imagine that supporters of badgers wouldn't want them culled/killed, but experts are experts, so should all be singing off the same hymn sheet - but they aren't.
Roger
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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no thats correct roger
but in meantime badgers die
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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cattle can be vaccinated but i read that farmers thought that too costly a solution.
tragic to lose one of our most popular animals.
Jan Higgins
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I fail to see the logic in this cull, the badgers have it so do the cattle so who gives it to who, here is the link to the petition Keith mentioned.
http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/38257
The following article also makes interesting reading.
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Brian Dixon
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kieth,a slight correction to #1,cats/dogs allso catch bovine tb and not the other way round.
having said that,i am not for/against it.if the cull cures it fair do's,if it dosent fair do's.but it all boils down to what cost the vaccine is and effectif it is to stopping this terrable thing.
another point that was being made was the cost to the farmer,ie,a few badgers lives or a herd of cattle costing thousands of pounds loss to the farmer.
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I often travel the Deal/Dover road early in the morning, the amount of dead badgers at the side of the road near Oxney Bottom in recent times makes me wonder if a cull has started? Yesterday there were 2 dead foxes on the same stretch of road.
Audere est facere.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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the same thing happens up millitry hill to,foxs and somtimes badgers to.and the odd rabbit to.
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Yes Brian, perhaps the way forward is to supply hi-vis attire to the wild life. It gives a whole new meaning to the phrase, "Duck for cover."
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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brian,
much as i hate to say it,,,,,,,,your wrong lol
scientific evidence has found that it is unclear where the T.B. which included it could have come from domestic animals.
thanks jan for producing the link(bit of a novice on the computer)
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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kieth,each to ones own perseption,you have yours,i have mine.but as you said you could be wrong to.
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I think Brian makes a fair point in post 7...what is swaying this argument in favour of mass culling is the farmers lobby. Dying cattle could result in a considerable financial loss to the farmer, whereas what cost some badgers!? In economic terms they cost nothing, whereas the cattle represent big cost. In terms of nature and natural life its very costly, a shame it has to come to this though.
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"Human interference with nature - it doesn't work! - BBC wildlife "
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Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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The cull has been put on hold for a year.
I still fail to see the logic of having the cull the arguments against seem more logical than those for.
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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my understanding jan
is they have been allowed to start in gloucester
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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gloucestershire and somerset were the pilot areas keith, now all been put on hold.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Sorry jan/howard
been working hard lol
not seen much news.
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Guest 700- Registered: 11 Jun 2010
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... until next year when I guess the whole charade will start again....
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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shame really,all that time and money put to waste.