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25 November 2010
19:1781673howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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25 November 2010
19:4181681thanks for that paul, i suppose you were there to grant audience to dave.
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25 November 2010
19:4881683As ever Howard.
Humility is the foreword.
Watty
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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25 November 2010
20:0281686he certainly neeeds a good advisor paul, the last one told him to elevate howard flight to the lords and eric pickles to lord it over councils.
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25 November 2010
20:1481691Howard, be careful about 'badmouthing' Eric, he has powerful friends on this Forum. The wrath of Barry will be vented on you.
Watty
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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25 November 2010
20:3081693paul
even bluebarry would be hard put to defend mr pickles claiming for a second home on expenses.
he had the cheek to say that he had to leave home in brentwood at 5 a.m. to reach the commons at 9 p.m.
other people in brentwood leave at 7.30 a.m. to arrive at 9 a.m.
this is the same man that tells councils that they must be frugal.
how dave can put a man like that in his present position tells us about his judgement.
until the high speed train arrived people in dover were doing 5 or more hours a day travelling to london to their work.
the taxpayers did not provide them with a second home.
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25 November 2010
20:3281696Eric has put Paul W in a pickle me thinks.
If you knew what I know,we would both be in trouble!
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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25 November 2010
20:3481698i see you have been learning from mr digance john.
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25 November 2010
20:4181700I take it you're a fan Howard.
Barry's still the boy on the inside with Eric.
Watty
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25 November 2010
20:4381701Quite possibly John.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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25 November 2010
21:0881703paul
if barry is friendly with eric i hope that he is skilled at the buffet.
on a less serious note i think you will not be much of a fan if re-elected in may and confronted with miniscule dosh and told that you have to deliver the same services.
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25 November 2010
21:3381704Eric and I are old friends from the late 70's, sparring partners from Young Conservative days when I was the brash Thatcherite SE Area YC Exec member and he the Heathite National YC Chairman. Glad to say Eric did see the light in later life....
Brian Dixon
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26 November 2010
08:4281721it must have been a dim light then.

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26 November 2010
08:5181724I know this thread has got a lot of frivolity going for it and is all good fun

, and well done PauliW with the picture, but I must just add a note of seriousness and digruntlement and say how disgusted I am ( Disgusted in Dover) with this police tactic of Kettling.I assume thats how you spell it. Kettling.
It made me furious to think that students were held in the streets..ILLEGALLY.. for up to eight hours. Legal experts have said that it is illegal and it should be properly challenged in the courts with a view to outlawing it as a tactic.
The students have a legitimate right to protest, as we are often told, and there was no violence of any kind until they were Kettled, and even then it was minor.
The sooner this tactic is dropped the better. My daughter has been on these demos, not sure if she was on the one yesterday, but she is entitled to demonstrate without being detained by the police for 8 hours.

DT1- Location: Dover
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26 November 2010
09:2881725Yes I read about this yesterday, it is outrageous that students (or anyone for that fact)should be denied the right to peaceful protest. What the government has done is terrible and for those who voted for the Libdems, utterly unacceptable.
I love the quote from Mr Gove suggesting that 'it is not the price tag of university holding poorer students back' ...yes of course Mr Gove, I feel the same about buying an Aston Martin.
Back to the protest, it is shocking that protestors were detained until they gave their names and addresses. I wonder how many tried the 'mickey mouse' trick, or 'Nick Clegg' for that fact.
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26 November 2010
10:2581731An operational police decision DT1 and nothing to do with the government.
Those students should be studying not rioting or protesting.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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26 November 2010
10:4881736i think ddt was referring to the government with regard to student fees not the policing.
on the subject of policing, why would the police want names and addresses of peceful protestors?
sounds like orwellian policing.
DT1- Location: Dover
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26 November 2010
10:5181737I realise this was a police decision Barry, my disgust is about the treatment of these protesters, making a stand against a poor governmental decision.
As for the idea that 'they should be working'; when studying for a politics degree or another of these 'pointless' degrees, students only possibly receive 9 hours of contact time a week...which would probably make you protest about the fees going up!
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26 November 2010
11:0181739DT1 - I could debate whether it is a good decision or not. Personally I would prefer far fewer to go to Uni and for A levels to be upgraded to what they were before being dumbed down. They need to end the daft degree for the sake of degree rubbish.
See my blog, now uploaded.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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26 November 2010
11:1381740i would like to see more of our brighter youngsters studying to be doctors, dentists, pharmacists and the like.
most of the above nowadays are imported.