Guest 725- Registered: 7 Oct 2011
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I've just been watching Question time on the beeb. My God what a hopeless bunch. Pie stuffing Prescott, bed wetting Lucas, Deluded Rees Jones and two mouths Willetts. The lady from the Times seemed reasonably intelligent. A couple of members of the audience actually surprised me but in general another disappointing dislplay of idiocy writ large.
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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I too watched and thought the journalist a waste of space, but why should we attempt to out-Cameron Cameron, in the insult stakes?
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Guest 725- Registered: 7 Oct 2011
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Not an insult Tom merely an apt description. I tell no lies and just see things as they are. If these fools set themselves up as representatives, spokespeople or speak their mind in such a way that they make complete idiots of themselves isn't it wrong to point this out? That's what democracy is all about isn't it? Or is it the word idiot you have an issue with. Put it this way if our esteemed prime minister is able to use the word why can't we all?
You have to admit it was all like listening to a bunch of drunk people propping up the bar at the local.
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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I think I have the gist of what you say.
"Pie stuffing Prescott", "bed wetting Lucas", "Deluded Rees Jones" etc. are a sight more personal than the oft employed term, 'idiot' Philip.
'It' is designed, or maybe engineered, to be just that way. Parliament mirrors drunks at the bar and vis-versa.
Two of three I mention we can at least vote out, not so with Griff and the Hackette, It's not easy to be nice, I know, but we must try.
I do not hold that 'Democracy' is the freedom to say what you like any time you like to who you (don't) like. Long live freedom of speech, but like listening, it is not compulsory.
The programme is not what it was, then again these are not the times that they were either. We did almost learn that Kings Lynn creates waste but does not wish to deal with it themselves.
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Guest 725- Registered: 7 Oct 2011
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The thing is Tom is I've always believed in the old adage "what's good for the goose".
So do some research and find out some of the things the panellists have been saying about other people in their careers and personal lives. It's quite shocking really. Prescott, as an example, is noted for his arrogance and bullying which involves extreme name calling. Describing him as a pie stuffer is being kind. He's described others in a much worse vein.
Lucas, the bed wetter as in Oh my God we're all going to die because of a trace gas, calls people like me "denialists" which is aimed at drawing some sort of link to holocaust deniers and climate change deniers which I consider extremely offensive.
Deluded might be a little excessive to describe Griff Rhys Jones but hey why not eh? Name calling is de rigueur nowadays and everyone's doing it.
As for Kings Lynn not wishing to deal with waste themselves is a rather trite condemnation. Do you know somethings we don't about the local anti-incinerator campaign?
Oh and I forgot - David Willetts, known to his tory chums as two brains Willetts. Two mouth willetts I'd say. Like most tory MPs he says one thing from the left side of this mouth and another from the right side.
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Keith Sansum1
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none of them over impressive prescott gone by his sale by date
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Jan Higgins
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Keith, I always think of Prescott as one of those 'do as I say but I will do what I like' people.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i watched about 10 minutes of it, the whole concept went past its sell by date a decade or more ago.
a bit of an ego trip for rent a quote politicians who would not have the ability to withstand hard debate.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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jan;
let me tell you a story;
many years ago with labour in opposition i travelled to westminster hall along with thousands of other railway workers/travellers interested party, and in a packed hall and heavy lobbying of mp's at the time.
prescott stood up and said, once back in govt we will take the railways out of private hands and made a very good argument as to why he had come to this train O(excuse the pun) of thought.
once in govt, he then said after i wrote to him, that it wasn't financialy viable to do this, and so he had sold all those people down the river!!!
i prefer politicians that at least give an argument why something can't happen
david shaw(mp for dover at time)did just that, didnt agree with him but at least knew where he was coming from.
prescott is to old and lost any sparkle he may have had
time for him to move on
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What is his current role?
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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bern;
i think it's salmon lol
but in politics i don't think he has one
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Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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The Labour rep on TV when the rest are unavailable?????
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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jan; think my reply funnier lol
or as good lol
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Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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I am with Howard - Question Time is past its sell by date. I gave up watching some time ago. It lost its 'mojo' when the late great Robin Day departed this mortal coil....
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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Dear Philip, "what's good for the goose", is a very useful phrase and I have no problem with it. I have not and dare not/could not stop you or anybody else from acting as others do simply because other do. It is though, more of a philosophy of going around and around and not one that assists or promotes progress, or going forward.
As for Kings Lynn, the comment that got the biggest response and the one that seemed to bring the whole audience together was one that was dead against the very idea of power generation through the combustion of household waste. When actually the points at issue are probably more of where the plant is to be sited and that it will be 'importing' waste from all around. A NIMBY argument. For many 'progress' is all well and good, just as long as it does not impact on 'us'. Much of the whole argument about Energy Generation is one of:Who benefits/Who pays? Where can be found the community that does not wish to benefit or the one willing to pay?
Willetts: I did not bring your comments on him into the comments I made. Both he and Prescott have built their political careers on the simple fact that the one is not the other. A point which aids the notion that Politics in the UK is the same as bar-room football debates, this is certainly one dinosaur notion that has past it's sell-by-date.
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Guest 725- Registered: 7 Oct 2011
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"But he isn't wearing an......."
"For God's sake shut up and stop making a fuss. What will people think?"
"Ok sorry Dad. I love his new clothes. They look really lovely".
Guest 730- Registered: 5 Nov 2011
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I think question time would be a lot more interesting without any politicians, the politicians are so predictable, you know exactly what they're going to say. Perhaps they should just get a random selection of people of the street, or how about a selection of Dover Forum members. They could have Reg and keith, BarryW, PhilipP, Tom Austin. Now that would be interesting.
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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Well, thank you Colin. It would have to be 'pay-per-view', what with the general belligerence and Philip's nudity...
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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if it were reg and i barryw and his big crowd
politics would again surface
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