Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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From BBC News
Permission for wind turbines to be built on the east Kent coast has been refused following a consultation.
Ecotricity wanted to build five 393ft (120m) turbines and an electricity sub-station at East Langdon, near Dover.
Dover District Council received hundreds of objection letters to the scheme but Ecotricity said the turbines were essential.
The Planning Inspectorate refused an appeal submitted before the district planning committee had made a decision.
Opponents said the turbines would destroy the rural landscape, affect tourism, create noise and disturb wildlife.
The council set up a relay system and marquee to accommodate the number of people attending a consultation meeting earlier this year
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Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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Wow! well done Scotchie..ace reporter with the hot news.
Well thats a turn up. It appears that the volume of letters from the public swung things in the end. What with the story re Gwyn Prosser MP on the frontpage and now this one, well they prove it is possible to sometimes change what appears to be the inevitable.
I wonder where we are going to get our green energy from in the future though?
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#3
From the millions of tons of unstoppable tide power that rushes through the channel every day ?
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Terry Nunn
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#4
Splendid news. Common sense prevails. Power to the people, but not wind power! A blot on the landscape.
Terry
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Guest 675- Registered: 30 Jun 2008
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#5
I am a little confused here. Hooray a big telly, lets be foward looking and progressive. Hooray, no windfarm, can't be having any of that new fangled nonsense.
Politics, it seems to me, for years, or all too long, has been concerned with right or left instead of right or wrong.
Richard Armour
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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chris
you know very well that the only interest for and against the windfarm is approx a total of 20 people and animals that live close by.
the forum tells you how many people are for the screen.
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#7
It's one thing Chris to put a telly in an urban environment and another to have the white cliffs and the castle dominated by a highly unefficient set of turbines.
Terry
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Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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#8
Paul the problem with wave power is probably that the solution would also be unsightly too I would imagine. But isnt that the big problem with any kind of energy initiative...everything from Nuclear Power to Coal is unsightly but we all want to switch on our tv and our lights in the evenings. Thats the problem. And of course we all want it in someone elses back yard!!
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#9
I am still surprised that no-one has come up with a viable geothermal power solution - there is am immense heat reserve (probably unlimited) underneath us all......
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#10
This subject always grinds my gears! Environmentalism is the new religion and is frankly followed by the deluded faithful.
Look at this - everybody cries and moans about pollution, power stations, toxic fumes and so forth, and eventually some clever git designs a windmill capable of harnessing natural forces into usable energy. It's clean, safe, efficient, renewable, and basically ticks all the right boxes. In theory, it should keep the environmentalist mentalists happy.
Now look at this - nobody wants windmills because they "affect the landscape" or "make a funny noise when it's windy" or whatever else people moan about.
No matter what form of energy resource we build, be it in the air, on land, or in the sea, it is going to require some big unsightly hardware which might even make a noise. I mean, what do people want? Utterly silent, invisible free energy that requires no physical space anywhere? Come on!!
Personally I think this whole global warming / pollution thing is a big scam anyway, based on some very dodgy science which is giving a lot of governments a great excuse to make money through various environmental taxes. I say bring back coal - it's simple!
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#11
Rick ,read Christopher Booker in Sunday Telegraph , he is the evidence base as the great disprover of the climate change lobby. And it is science based.
Watty
#12
Great - we take a step back and away from positive progress and someone somewhere celebrates.
Ross Miller
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#13
Here is an interesting take on this debate
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/02/25/jstor_climate_report_translation/
A number of Japanese scientists have produced a report denying a human cause to global warming.
This flies in the face of the IPCC concensus
http://www.ipcc.ch/http://www.ipcc.ch/
Frankly is it any wonder ordinary people are confused
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i think that everyone is confused by the issue.
most go by the last comment that they have heard from someone looking earnest on their television screen.
i would cast doubt on japanese scientists denying a human cause of warming though.
their industry creates a lot of the world emissions, therefore their government would be pleased to fund a report that exonerated them.
i have no views whatsoever what is causing this so called climate change.
#15
This is not news - we were using recycled everything 25 years ago, only using eco-friendly domestic goods, agonising over which nappies to use: should we fill landfill sites or should we pollute the earth with washing powder. It has been an issue for years. I fail to see why we ned to pursue whether or not there is a human cause. we should, simply, look after the Earth, and that might mean changing how we do things a bit, usi gn alternative stuff, and not putting profit before the planet. Duh!
Ross Miller- Location: London Road, Dover
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#16
I agree Bern
My issue with the Climate Change lobby is that they lost the argument for me when they stopped talking about sensible management of the worlds resources and caring for our environment and got all preachy and holier than thou.
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Brian Dixon
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#17
im for a wind turbine on top of the telly.
#18
EnvironMENTALISTS would have us all believe that modern Western society and capitalism is the root of all evil and is destroying the world. It stinks of good old fashioned doom-peddling, pseudo-religious claptrap based on typically moronic end-of-the-world anxieties, anti-progress, and loony leftwing values.
I utterly disbelieve that global warming is caused by humans. I believe that no matter what we do, whether we double our pollution output or abandon all industry and live like simple ape men, the temperature of the earth will flutter up and down of its own accord just like it has done over the last goodness-knows how many millions of years.
Check your science books. Earth has been scorched, frozen, bombarded with comets, you name it, nature does it. That human industry can affect a whole planet is frankly as ludicrous to me as the notion of a James Bond villain building a lazer on the moon to take out entire continents. It's just a vulgar fiction which is now being used to the various advantages (both financial and political) of various groups.
So there!
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#19
i think that phrases like capitalism and loony left went out in the seventies.
we live in a world that has no political leanings any more, just pragmatism based on how to get elected.
#20
Whether the loony left or the facists are talking about it, the bare fact is we owe it to ourselves and the people left to manage the place to look after what we live on. It is both defeatist and irresponsioble to say that just because we don't like the people talking about it we won't act responsibly.