Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,895
For once the will of the country has prevailed.
Yes that would be a very good idea Howard and a much more sensible way to spend the money that would have been wasted in Syria.
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I try to be neutral and polite but it is hard and getting even more difficult at times.
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SWWood- Location: Dover
- Registered: 30 May 2012
- Posts: 261
An incredibly poor decision from Parliament, and one which may come back to haunt us. What I don't understand is what we hope will happen now. We know the U.N. will not act, (as Russia will protect it's strategic interests non Syria), so do we hope that the U.S. acts alone? Or do we simply let the use of chemical weapons go unchecked? What will stop the further use of these weapons in future?
Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
- Posts: 4,010
How ever....Flashman has the last word................
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
- Posts: 3,370
Their goes Cameron's bung from the arms industry
Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
- Posts: 2,594
Charlie Elphicke voted FOR military intervention.
I'd be interested if that is what he believes in or if there's a job coming up.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
surprised he voted in favour he was very doubtful a couple of days ago when asked.
Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
- Posts: 2,594
That answers my question then Howard. Principles go out of the window if you've got your eye on a job.
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
- Posts: 3,370
Charlie Elphicke is very much a Cameron man ,
His voting record on the EU says it all
But His tax campaign is to be commend ,not all bad.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
much of the voting was on political grounds and not genuine concern for the syrians david.
for example david davies voted against!!
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
- Posts: 6,950
Two Government Ministers missed voting for Dave's resolution, they didn't hear the bell*, and one Con and one Lib-Dem voted both ways.
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"International development secretary Justine Greening and Foreign Office minister Mark Simmonds failed to vote in the government motion to back military action in Syria.
It is understood Greening and Simmonds were in a room near the Commons chamber discussing a different foreign policy matter..."
Is Uganda still an issue?
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
- Posts: 2,594
Much of the voting? Understatement Howard, its the whip system that is undermining democracy, I admire the so called rebels who vote what they think not what they're told to vote.
Its no secret Charlie has his eye on promotion, he'd wear his underpants on his head if Cameron told him to.
Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
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It is understood Greening and Simmonds were in a room near the Commons chamber discussing a different foreign policy matter..."
I've never heard that euphemism before
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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That's where 'Uganda' comes in David.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
"didn't hear the bell", very politically astute of them or maybe they were indulging in ugandan discussions tom.
Guest 683- Registered: 11 Feb 2009
- Posts: 1,052
An ongoing Ugandan situation possibly, Tom.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
private eye from the seventies david.
Guest 714- Registered: 14 Apr 2011
- Posts: 2,594
I might try it next time I'm late home, the Ugandan situation is very worrying
Guest 904- Registered: 21 Mar 2013
- Posts: 312
Here is a list of the 39 MPs from the coalition parties who voted against it:
Conservatives
David Amess (Southend West)
Richard Bacon (Norfolk South)
Steven Baker (Wycombe)
John Baron (Basildon and Billericay)
Andrew Bingham (High Peak)
Crispin Blunt (Reigate)
Fiona Bruce (Congleton)
Tracey Crouch (Chatham and Aylesford)
David Davies (Monmouth)
Philip Davies (Shipley)
David Davis (Haltemprice and Howden)
Nick de Bois (Enfield North)
Richard Drax (Dorset South)
Gordon Henderson (Sittingbourne and Sheppey)
Philip Hollobone (Kettering)
Adam Holloway (Gravesham)
Phillip Lee (Bracknell)
Julian Lewis (New Forest East)
Jason McCartney (Colne Valley)
Stephen McPartland (Stevenage)
Nigel Mills (Amber Valley)
Anne-Marie Morris (Newton Abbot)
Andrew Percy (Brigg and Goole)
Sir Richard Shepherd (Aldridge-Brownhills)
Sir Peter Tapsell (Louth and Horncastle)
Andrew Turner (Isle of Wight)
Martin Vickers (Cleethorpes)
Charles Walker (Broxbourne)
Chris White (Warwick and Leamington)
Dr Sarah Wollaston (Totnes)
Liberal Democrats
Gordon Birtwistle (Burnley)
Michael Crockart (Edinburgh West)
Andrew George (St Ives)
Julian Huppert (Cambridge)
Dan Rogerson (Cornwall North)
Andrew Stunell (Hazel Grove)
Ian Swales (Redcar)
Sarah Teather (Brent Central)
Roger Williams (Brecon and Radnorshire)
Guest 904- Registered: 21 Mar 2013
- Posts: 312
So, there would appear to be 30 Tories who have some balls and listen to their constituents...
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
- Posts: 6,950
I saw that Paul, but I am still left with a small desire to know who couldn't be bothered to turn up at all, from New Labour or any other party.
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.