Guest 684- Registered: 26 Feb 2009
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Forget the blue and red political hues for once, why don't you all? Blimey - it's what messes things up on a local and national level after all, quite clearly, isn't it? Playground politics. Name-calling and point-scoring while Rome burns.
Fact is Thatcher kick-started the destruction of our beloved country. Blair and Brown, as her all-too-eager apostles, have finished the job off. Cadaverous, greedy, morally-bereft b*stards all three of them.
KEEP PARTY POLITICS OUT OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT! FORZA DUBRIS INDIPENDENTE!
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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I would love to see the political parties withdraw from the town councils, but i don't think it will ever happen
District is a diffrent matter as is kcc
and independents have every chance of standing candidates and winning seats
]but threy to are no longer independent(well the Dover ones) as they to are a party
so independent? all confusing aint it
Well said Andrew. No argument here!!
Guest 664- Registered: 23 Mar 2008
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But Rick we won the war, right? That's all that matters.
That and being" tolerant"...of everyone and everything else.
Thankyou for this brilliant post Rick.
Actually, in many regards Germany is clearly superior to us. But not just Germany. Much as it pains me to say it, so is France and many other European nations.
It seems to me that all we are any good at now is fighting. In fact strip away the wode, and I doubt if half the inhabitants of Dover are any more advanced than their ancestors who stood on the cliffs 2,000 years ago watching a superior civilisation arriving.
Guest 650- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Hah! Objection! The Romans weren't "superior" to the Ancient Brits. It's merely that the Brits are often inaccessible to us. That's not their shortcomings, but ours in interpreting the material remains of a mainly prehistoric folk, usually through Roman-tinted spectacles.
On national identity, it changes - it's not fixed. Indeed, it's an historical creation, and besides, can only form in juxtaposition with those who claim another identity. I don't think it's necessarily a national identity that should concern us, but instead certain aspects of what might appear to be a national culture. An example - a useful thing to get rid would not be tolerance and acceptance (and not throwing the community baby out with PC-maligned bathwater), but anger and egocentrism; a little less "me" and a little more "we"
Local politics? If we're into well-known speeches, then how about "Ask not what Dover can do for you, ask what you can do for Dover." But that should apply across the board, not just in politics. It's certainly an underpinning philosophy in the DWMP.
Guest 664- Registered: 23 Mar 2008
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Hmmm, formidable armies, enormous Empire, technology such as straight roads, aqueducts, central heatiing - they were civilised, we were not!
And we are now heading the same way that they went.
Guest 684- Registered: 26 Feb 2009
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This is all getting a bit Life of Brian, isn't it?!
"What did the Romans ever do for us..."