Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#1
Anthony Hook is who I am talking about.
See todays Dover Express.
Threatening legal action to a woman who posted, on Facebook, a telephone script used during the 2009 election campaign by the LibDems?
Either he and the LibDems have something to hide or he is just a pathetic bully.
There is nothing deflamitory about such a script after all, unless the LibDems condemn themselves by their own words and actions.
If 'Hooky' has nothing to hide then he should publish the script in full himself to prove it.
Guest 715- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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#2
Was there not legal action threatened on here some time ago?
Audere est facere.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#3
I remember Hooky from years ago. Isn't he a Barrister/Solicitor Barry ? Not my best friend.
Roger
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Martin P wrote:Was there not legal action threatened on here some time ago?
Indeed over professional deflamation. Very different to this.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#5
i saw the piece and i didn 't see anything defamatory in it, maybe just a bit of publicity for the forthcoming european elections which he is standing in .
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howard mcsweeney1 wrote:i saw the piece and i didn 't see anything defamatory in it, maybe just a bit of publicity for the forthcoming european elections which he is standing in .
I think you are getting confused Howard. Maybe because Martin went off subject to something totally different and unrelated.
The Express piece does not mention the content of the script that Hooky's mob used on the phone and he is so keen to keep secret.
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Off script!! The header of this thread referred to a " SAD PATHETIC BULLY" it so reminded me of the threatened legal action on here.
Audere est facere.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#8
barry, i saw the script on facebook before it was removed, a classic case of a storm in an eggcup.
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Martin P wrote:Off script!! The header of this thread referred to a " SAD PATHETIC BULLY" it so reminded me of the threatened legal action on here.
Perhaps you need reminding of some facts via a PM as if that were not to be followed by a grovelling apology your personal integrity would be under question. Despite our political differences and despite the contempt I have for the Party you support I have never questioned your personal integrity.
Howard - nothing to do with Facebook, the story was in the Express.
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#10
No contact information, clearly no interest in the facts or, if you are, send me an email Martin and I will provide them. My email is available.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Barry
it was everything to do with facebook, that is where it all broke out and i have corresponded with the victim over the matter.
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Sorry, Howard - my reference was entirely about the Express article. You are referring to what happened originally. Crossed wires.
Guest 1172- Registered: 28 Jan 2014
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I hope you don't mind me joining this forum or that I want to reply to this post. I am not from Dover but I am the woman from the article in the Dover Express. It would be interesting to know your opinions on the matter. My original post to Mr Hook was below a post he had linked to his campaign page on facebook. I questioned the fairness of his previous telephone campaign, that used young people on a job centre work experience placement to tell members of the public that they were supporting him because they thought he would make a fantastic MEP,. The fact is that was not true. They were on the phone making calls because the job centre arranged work experience at that location and it was nothing to do with them thinking he make fantastic MEP. I did publish a small portion of the script to back up the fact that it was true but removed it after the threat.
It does make me question the ethics of using the job center work experience placement for political purposes.
From a young persons point of view I think the first thing they will have learned is that it is ok to lie in the workplace and to lie for gain.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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We expect politicians to lie, it goes with the job. Getting youngsters to lie for you deliberately and taking it from a script is a new low.
The LibDems have always been the most unethical campaigners (in an unethical activity), remember what they were famously urged some time ago by their campaign manager, to go out and lie, lie and lie again, shamlessly.... They have always told voters what they think voters want to hear, often a different message in each ward/constituency.
From the evidence we have seen with his attempts to cover up the script and the election methods he clearly support Hooky fits in well with the LibDem culture of lies and deciet.
It seems to me that by his actions he brings not only his Party and himself into disrepute but his profession too.
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#15
Provided you can prove that you came by the script in a legal manner, (you may need to take adviceon this and obtain documentary proof) I think you should call his bluff. Publish it again, drawing the attention of LibDem HQ to it, and threaten to escalate it nationally if he continues with his action. The jobcentre aspect of it is news to me and I think that's a particularly shocking twist - using public resources for political ends.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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Just send it to the mail /express the sun .send anonymously to the front gate ,lol
Guest 1172- Registered: 28 Jan 2014
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I think I can prove that the document wasn't stolen and that the person who originally had the document did not deliberately take/ use the document for any purpose other than the work experience. He was meant to be there for 2 weeks. He used to just pack up his papers at the end of the day and bring them back the next day. What happened was, at the end of the 2 weeks, Mr Hook told them that his campaign was still running and anyone who wanted to continue gaining further work experience could still come and he would cover their expenses. i.e. bus or train fare. This young person along with others continued. When it got to the next signing on day he went to the Job Centre and he had to show what steps had been taken to find a job, it was explained that apart from sending off C.V's and filling out application forms, he had also continued with Mr Hook getting work experience.
At this point the Job Centre sanctioned him because he had not been available for work the previous week which breached the rules. I don't know how long the sanction lasted but during that time he did not get any benefits and so life was difficult for his family supporting him. These were youngsters just out of college. They weren't made aware that this would happen by Mr Hook. He should have known the rules before asking to stay on. Regardless, he never returned to Mr Hook's campaign office and therefore neither did the script. Like most young people, he tossed the script into a draw and their it remained for months. It was only when his family was moving house and I was helping that I first saw the script. I read it and was going to put it in the paper recycle but asked the mother if I could have it as I was interested in this sort of thing. She said as it was out for rubbish I could. That was quite some time ago. I did show it to a couple of people but then forgot about it until I saw Mr Hooks post with a link to his new campaign and dug it out..
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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surely it would be up to mr hook to prove it was stolen rather than anyone proving it wasn't?
the job centre don't come out of this very well either.
Guest 1172- Registered: 28 Jan 2014
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Since the original article came out last week , an online version was released by the Dover Express yesterday where Mr Hook has since responded to their question asking why he had threatened me with legal action and he said ''"I was disappointed to learn a document had been removed from me without permission but I regard the matter as closed."
I am not sure from this whether this really means he has realised there would be no case to answer to.
With regard to republishing the document I still believe it to be in the public interest to know the content. If I were to republish, where would be the best place to republish it?
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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#20
So let's get this strait
This candidate is getting kids to say they think he will be a good trustworthy person to represent the public in a supposed democratic institution
But he Could be using job canter forced fodder to lie to the public,
You need to pass on your information to the electoral commission for investigation
Informing the press of you complaint.