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    post 82;
    my informants tell me it was well debated and john misunderstood the vote or some one else dis as there were 2 abstaintions both funnily enough proclaiming in the past to be on the left wing of the labour party(funny what a bit of power does to some)

    post 85
    you will see from johns postings the rally was at 1000


    post 88
    total rubbish(but of course able to have an opinion) the reds will romp home next
    election

    don't forget ukip locally(if there were a branch lol) its members are against standing candidates in local elections so ukip will remain a 1 policy party as seen by the public

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