howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i thought their support would have been even higher but certainly enough to rock the boat of the main parties.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012/nov/19/ukip-benefiting-disillusionment-politics-pollGuest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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For the next general election ukip could offer the voters a deal.
If you vote in ukip you get withdrawal from the EU.
Then they recall the general election, so people can vote the party they support as normal.
A lend us your vote deal.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Some of their other policies I believe make sense too, not just Europe.
Roger
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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from what i have read most of their policies are in line with traditional blue views hence their gaining most of their votes from there but more importantly getting some activists.
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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Agreed roger.
But the deal would need to be what the country is being democratically denied by the 3 other parties.
I wonder haw many form members would vote ukip for a deal like that ?
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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europe is a great subject of discussion in pubs, on t.v. and on forums like this but is not uppermost in people's minds when they go out to vote.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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That's already begun to change Howard. Europe will turn out to be THE biggest issue by 2015. The biggest danger in voting UKIP is that a LibLab coalition would ensue, and a worse result I cannot imagine. If Farage genuinely wants out he should tell Cameron he will only field candidates in constituencies where the Tory incumbent or prospective are not hard line eurosceptics. Alternatively, we need hundreds of sitting reds and blues to join UKIP; but then we end up with Farage as PM! Did I say I couldn't imagine a worse result?
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Brian Dixon
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n,farage was on live at the appolo the other night.right funney it was to,got booed of stage.
Keith Sansum1
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labour will win the next election as the largest party but not overall control
my prediction
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Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Keith, before the next GE, the EU in/out referendum issue will come up big and massive. Many Labour supporters - albeit perhaps a minority - will want such referendum, we could be talking of millions of Labour supporters.
Enough for them to cast a significant vote for UKIP.
Expect surprises! As the GE approaches (it could even come before 2015 considering the Coalition is unstable), UKIP is likely to launch a massive campaign to attract support. Something unseen till now.
So no, Labour will not get a majority vote to enter government, unless they promised an EU in/out referendum.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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alex
have to disagree with you and peter on the importance voters will place on the european issue, most of us will vote for our pocket as per usual.
secondly the government will last until may 2015 whether it is still cobbled together or not.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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alex,a referendum is an all party myth.there will not be a referendum ever.all party broken promise.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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So if UKIP campaigned for an increased minimum wage policy too, that should be the answer, Howard!
Brian, are you suggesting UKIP is not a party??
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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the 3 major parties are not going for a referendum
UKIP will damage a few tories but probably not enough to win seats
then say like they did in the police commission elections, that they did well coming second and 3rd
coming 2nd and 3rd is losing
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Guest 673- Registered: 16 Jun 2008
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Any party has to start somewhere and UKIP seems to be doing rather well. Any new party is to be welcomed to give an alternative to lurching backwards and forwards between Conservatives and Labour, neither of which appear to be remotely competent.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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I think they need to stand in Dover
charley's voting records not good on the EU ,
http://www.brugesgroup.com/index.live go to MP watch
Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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Not sure if that is a step forward for UKIP there Howard, more a sweating brow observation from the Tories. They are beginning to realise that their re-election prospects are threadbare at best...an added blow is the news today that George Osborne's battle with the economic situation is not currently bearing fruit, seemingly they are now projecting austerity for a lot longer than originally anticipated. There goes the Election ! A confident top of their game Tory Party would never put out feelers like this kind of UKIP alignment. I have a feeling the higher echelons of the Conservative bastions will not be terribly happy, with traditionalists turning in their imaginary graves, with this being made public. Mr Cameron as far as I know has not commented on Fabricant's suggestion.
Nigel Farage...one time guest member of this forum, may even still be, was reported initially to warm to this idea but then it seems later on rubbished it. Havent heard the definitive response as of yet.
Nigel who talks a good fight, especially on Europe, is reportedly to be insisting on a full fledged referendum on the EU before agreeing to any kind of co-operation. Pigs might fly...
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Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Ukip have been standing in Dover for the last 3G/E will I be doing it again next time? well we will have to wait and see,
