Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
#21
ah come on chaps shes no differant than that vincent van cough chap.
#22
Except Vincent had talent in abundance and she is just a talentless chavette.
Sorry folks, NOTHING that woman does is art. She is a con merchant pure and simple and the arty farties fall over themselves to proclaim her skill because they are either too cowrdly or stupid or both to tell the truth. She produces absolute rubbish.
Incidentally, and also to be clear, I don't like the garbage she produces and won't give it the credit of calling it work, because it isn't.
Guest 657- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#23
Art is such a personal thing, there is no right and wrong answer, one man (or woman's) rubbish is another's treasure. I take photographs in cemeteries; to me there is beauty in decay - rusty railings and crumbling angels. Some people say ewwww, yet others love them. There are many artists I like for different reasons, Tracey included.
Guest 650- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 542
#24
What Tracey Emin does can be rather uncomfortable. Nevertheless, within it all there is something where she does have a point. I think the point is over-laboured and I think that she could be a product of advertising rather more than anything else - in which case the Saatchis have probably underlined that they are rather good at their job. Perhaps that's what it's all about,; something to put on their CVs ("We took this hopeless case and created millions for her and from her ...") If so, then it maybe all comes down to a sustained joke.
However, Tracey Emin does reveal and examine concepts that aren't ordinarily visible. In as much as she does that, then one could call what she does "art". Sometimes she strikes the emotions, as with a couple of things she did for the Folkestone Trienniel (even though I felt that her informing concept there wasn't particularly challenging).
She has her place. Having said that, I feel that her place is becoming smaller, and that she already is rather démodé. Maybe that's because ideologically we're beginning to move on from the personalised insular, and maybe too it's because she has now said all she had to say. Whatever the case, I suspect she has contributed to the question of what art is..
#25
Only by default...............................
#26
Well, if you call used tampons and unmade beds a contribution, I suppose she has made one. Personally think the sooner she disappears up her own accroutements the better.
#27
#28
Love Jeane, hate Emin.
Guest 657- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#29
Ha ha ha thanks Jimmy.
Aww Sid, thanks. That's what I like about this forum, we can agree to disagree and we still play nicely.
Guest 687- Registered: 2 Jun 2009
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#30
I can't genuinely comment on Tracey's ability as an artist except to say her work is obviously commercially acceptable whereas Van Gogh never sold a painting during his brief life and only painted for the last 6 years of it. I can however comment on her as a person.
Last year a colleague and I delivered the furniture to her home in France and she was the perfect hostess. Not only did she feed us but allowed us to stay the night. She is immensly proud of her Thanet roots especially the 8 years she spent at college there.
Having plenty of time to spend whilst there, I put her bed together(not the infamous one) ably asisted by 'the' Jerry Hall, my modest claim to fame. If my grandson hadn't washed my other computer with coffee I could have supported this post with photos.
Guest 657- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#31
Well I'm pleased someone has something good to say about her.
I am very jealous that you got to meet her
#32
Just for the record, my views are in no way aimed at Tracey personally. I don't know her and I'm sure she's a nice person. But as an artist, man she sucks!
#33
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
#34
ken
when you say that you spent the night at her house, would you be able to elucidate on that?
thanks in advance for your reply.
#35
Art is, at heart, fun with pictures. I don't especially like what Emin does, but what's the harm? I mess about with paints and stuff, I'm bad, but what's the harm? I love messing about with oils and pastels, it makes me smile. Job done.
Guest 657- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#36
@ Howard.
That's great Bern, art should be fun. There is enough serious stuff.
Ross Miller
- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
- Posts: 3,709
#37
emin, hurst et al - trite fatuous over hyped over priced broadly unoriginal tat
"Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die today." - James Dean
"Being deeply loved by someone gives you strength,
While loving someone deeply gives you courage" - Laozi
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
#38
what about that sheep in a tank ross?
#39
Italians Howard, they're the only sheep in tanks!
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
#40
yep them tanks are uniqe 6 reverse gears and 1 foward so me dad tells me.
