Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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Time for the conservatives to step aside, and stop letting the hand ringing parties in
It looks like doge Dave and his slime estate agent image, just doesn't con the public anymore
The ukip policy's of an end to immigration and an end to the EU disaster
And the promise to give the public a say on corporal punishment, are wining the day
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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Liberal Democrat Mike Thornton 13,342 . You lucky bugger
UKIP Diane James 11,571 .Keith s. will be very impressed
Conservative Maria Hutchings 10,559 . Goodbye Dave
Labour John O'Farrell 4,088 . Eddy Milibands no referendum party isn't impressing the voters
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Typical by-election fare, we have seen it all before. The only thing not normal is a party in government retaining a seat.
General elections tend to sober up the electorate.
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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3 words Barry
Ostrich. Head & sand
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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that applies to the leadership of both the two main parties, their days could well be numbered.
Guest 716- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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# 3 Agree.....but it is political dynamite with the usual after shock.......
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Blimey - we agree Reg....
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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interesting piece by norman tebbit in the telegraph
The Eastleigh by-election was bound to have some bad news for the Tories, whatever happened. Even had they taken the seat from the Lib Dems, which would have been a triumph for David Cameron, the Lib Dems would have put the blame on Clegg and the anti-coalitionists might well have forced him out of the leadership with the strong probability that the coalition would have collapsed.
In fact, that was never on the cards. The Lib Dems were deeply dug in and well organised in Eastleigh, whereas the Tory grassroots had shrivelled in the climate of contempt in which they are regarded by the Tory leadership.
However, to be pushed into third place behind the party of nutcases, fruit cakes and closet racists, as David Cameron ill-advisedly described its supporters, is a humiliating defeat. Even worse for him, it has again increased the credibility of Ukip ahead of this year's local elections and next years European election. There was a real sting in the throwaway line of Neil Farage, who blamed the result onto the Conservatives for splitting the anti-Lib Dem vote.
As for poor Ed Miliband, the result must raise the question of why with the coalition in so many problems, Labour performed so poorly. I would like to believe that the choice of the revolting O'Farrell turned off a lot of decent potential Labour voters, but it may also be that even many Labour voters regard a vote for Ukip as the best way to kick the Coalition.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Norman always speaks sense.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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including the bit about "humiliating defeat" barry?
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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In the context of Cameron's comments, yes. Very foolish comments they were too Howard.
Keith Sansum1
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Well at least mr tebbitt is smelling the coffee
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