Ross Miller
- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
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With cream?
"Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die today." - James Dean
"Being deeply loved by someone gives you strength,
While loving someone deeply gives you courage" - Laozi
But of course.......

Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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agreed ross money may be tight but there is eu money.we have allready had some for the town ie dover seafront/railway station,it would be possable to expand that to the town center and ditz.
Guest 684- Registered: 26 Feb 2009
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What is a 'youth shelter' and why do we need them?
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Sid's reassumption of my idea is better than I could have stated myself. In fact, to invest some money in a theatre-concert hall would atract people to Dover from East Kent (may-be even London) for entertainment, as well as giving entertainment to Dovorians. It would help the local business and offer a cultual alternative - or alternatives - to throwing litter around in the streets. As it is a shared idea that many forumites seem to like, and has evidently been brought up in the past by a number of people, then we could certainly envisage that it is possible to make it reality. I will certainly keep the proposal up in the future, shold the UKIP make it into the Councils! Meanwhile of gone back to my old pass-time of writing about Churches.
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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Alexandra
UKIP unlikely ever to reach those dizzy heights.
Im also sure if the theatre idea was a good one our John would have got his troops together to make it happen.
Maybe a comment from john???
Guest 660- Registered: 14 Mar 2008
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I have said before we have so much talent in Dover and only a few places to showcase it,and I like the idea of a theatre......but if we can only get a couple of hundred to turn out for a show and with the cost of hiring in a big name and the cost of the hall,it is difficult to make it pay.The Richard Digance show which was attended by 215 people made a profit after everything was paid of £180.
Some stars contracts actually make it difficult,as they will take 80 % of all profits plus a basic fee so you run a financial risk and if you do make a profit then there is no money in it,well 20%,unless you are big like the Marlow or Leas Cliff and the people support it,but having say 500 people in the Town Hall although that sounds alot makes it difficult,otherwise you will have to charge big money for tickets and as soon as you do that many people would not come to a show if you charge £20-£30 a ticket.
Difficult problem,but having researched the cost of stars,it can be done if you go for someone who is known and doesn't charge the earth and careful marketing and then hoping the people support you,it is ok people visiting from out of town,they have these things at Folkestone,Canterbury and Margate,we need Dover people to support any thing like this and they are not always forthcoming.
If you knew what I know,we would both be in trouble!
is anyone thinking of a xmas panto with the forumites as the stars? we have cinderella here as myself

Guest 700- Registered: 11 Jun 2010
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Remembering the Royal Marines Sgts Mess pantos, what about a Corps de Ballet with hobnail boots and tutus ?
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Been there, done it Kath. John had this as his follow-up to the Wilson, Keppel and Betty extravanganza the year before (still got the outfit).
What has happened to the Blackfish Academy?
Couldn't Dover have Comedy Nights in the Great White Elephant or whatever it's know by today? Get the venue established and grow from there is the way forward.
No disresepct John, but Richard Digance? I wouldn't pay a fiver to watch him; he is not even B-list anymore in Joe Public's mind, and the youngsters won't have heard of him. I reckon you must have done wonders to make a profit there.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Sorry to bring everyone down to earth, but the old cinema is definitely still owned by Wetherspoons and they really really wish they hadn't bought it as the DTIZ development looks dead in the water and it will cost them a king's ransom to remove the asbestos from the structure.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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you don't like richard digance sid?
i am shocked, he has been described as pam ayres with a bald patch, cannot get better than that.
the blackfish academy is still up and running, our newest member is connected with it.
Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Perhaps we need some top names like these from Clackton
Been nice knowing you :)
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i think i would then consider moving from dover.
that was below the belt paul.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Keith! Alexandra is my sister! I'm Alexander her brother!
John H G: nice to know you are for the idea, although, mind, a theatre/concert hall could be used also by local acting groups, be it theatre or music, the sort of people who, say in a grioup of five or even ten members, would be happy to put together a hundred pounds for say three performances of two hours each. So a fiver per person to enter, times three in one day, would give the same performing group sufficient revenue, and leave a handsome sum for the owner of the structure, for example a Dover Council.
However, that does not exclude the possibility of a star coming too, and possibly charging tuppence more on top of the fiver, but the idea is to encourage groups which do performance and give great entertainment, and this could in turn encourage an increase in the presence of such groups, nationwide and locally, as they would be appreciated and give great entertainment, be it Morris dancers, bagpipe players or Greek dancers (from Europe) or Serbian dancers or Northumbrian bagpipe players or Highlanders... they do not all charge massive fees and would be probably pleased to entertain for a normal sum.
Kath:

Hobnailed boots iron-shod, that's what we need, and marching military bands, and a bit of livelines, to spur people on to greater efforts, and empty the job-centre out and have people marching to work, at least a few times a week, and the economy will soon be back in stimulus. That's what we need armies for, for every day life!

Guest 700- Registered: 11 Jun 2010
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Or even Tom Thumb, who appeared at Dover:
General Tom Thumb: The American man in miniature. Under the Patronage of Her Majesty, Prince Albert, the Queen Dowager, the King and Queen of the Belgians, the Nobility generally and visited in London by 300,000 persons in 4 months! This extraordinary little gentleman is 13 years old, 25 inches high, smaller than any infant that ever walked alone, and weighs only fifteen pounds !
Thre Nobility, Gentry and public are respectfully informed that the little General will hold his Public Levees at the Apollonian Hall, Dover, on Tues and Wed next March 11 and 12th positively for Two days only !
The General will give a variety of Songs, Dances &c. He will give an imitation of Napoleon in full military costume, and the Grecian Statues; the little General will likewise appear in the magnificent Court Dress, which he had the honour of wearing three times before her Majesty sand before the Queen Dowager; also in his new Highland Dress, made and presented by Messrs Brodie McLeod & Co., Glasgow.
The magnificent presents given him by Her Majesty, the Queen Dowager, the Duke of Devonshire &c will be exhibited.
The General's new and elegant Carriage, drawn by two of the Smallest Ponies in the World, with Coachman and Footman in Splendid Liveries, will arrive early on Tuesday.
Hours of Exhibition 11 to 1, 3 to 5 and 7 to 9. Doors open half an hour previous. Admission (regardless of age - one shilling each) (Dover Telegraph 3 Aug 1845 front page)
General Tom Thumb - advert for farewell concert, at the Apollonian Hall, Dovere
(Dover Telegraph 8.8.1846 p.1 col.4) also vocal and instrumental concert here (Dover Tel 21.11.1846 p.1 col.2)
(also see Dover Tel 3 Oct 1846 p.8 col.1)
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I wonder why Dana describes herself as "International Catholic recording artist"? Maybe it's because her hubby is called Damien!!!
Incidentally, did you all know it is the jubilee year for priests? aparently Herr Mr Pope declared it so in honour of St Jean Vianney, the Cure of Ars. Geeting a sainthood for fixing piles can't be bad!

howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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getting back to the tom thumb show, i notice that the price is the same for everyone.
seems unfair on the people at the back that would be unable to see the star of the show.
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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howard,you could watch the show on the big screen in the market square,im sure if you ask the person with the remote control to turn it up.
