Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Hi, Ian. Welcome to the group of doubters!
Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
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Well Ian,
All this time you have told me of your lack of interest in politics, and i used to tell you how these guys and girls affect your whole life.
The greed of some politicians, and the pull the ladder up im ok type of attitude does little to inspire the
WE ARE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER motto.
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Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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We're all in this together, Keith!
Democratic elections allow people to vote their candidates of trust.
As long as T. Blair doesn't come creeping in through the backdoor as an "adviser" of governmental policies, there is no dictatorship preventing people from voting their preferred candidates at election-time, both local and national.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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That is correct Alexander, and thankfully the mouse and cleggy are on borrowed time
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Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
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kieth,you are sounding like a broken record.
Guest 671- Registered: 4 May 2008
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This thread is very lop sided, G B has not been blamed yet?
"My New Year's Resolution, is to try and emulate Marek's level of chilled out, thoughtfulness and humour towards other forumites and not lose my decorum"
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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Gary
Bush was under a lot of pressure to avenge 9/11
Meany people expected and pushed for a nuke response from America, towards iran Pakistan and Afghanistan, the nests of extreme Islam.
Bush resisted this way , so the die was set to overthrow sadam and show the way for gleaming capitalist democracy on the doorstep of the biggest Islamist nest iran
Bush and silly Blair had forgotten one thing; it was the ion fist of sadam that kept the lid on the tribal divisions in this country.
The incentives to bring back the oil reserves of that country was a bonus.
If they had kept in place the bathist party government machine, like they did in Germany after ww2 , during the transitional time maybe they could have dune it,
Arak was a moden Weston non extreme Islamist country.
Gary, I think you need to look at obamas motives, he's installed an American military base in Poland ,
American jets over Libya , pushing for turkeys EU membership ,and setting up military interference in sirea .
Some economist believe Americas is on a path to economic implosion.
I wonder what side show to distract the fury of the American people they have planed.
The question is why is obama and Weston countries helping to install Islamist governments in these country?
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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There is a very different way to look at those numbers Ian....
659,000 public sector job losses, far too few. Nowhere near what is needed to bring the public sector down to a reasonable and sustainable size. We can welcome the 700,000 plus private sector jobs created over the same period though.
40,000 'rich individuals' avoiding £10.2bn tax. Avoiding, so it is legal then. In fact why single out the rich who are avoiding tax, do we all not do so? Nobody likes paying tax and no-one should have to pay more tax than they legally have to.
But then there are £billions more excess tax being paid because some many people, including pensioners and a lot of people on this forum, are paying more tax than they should be because of lack of knowledge.
100 new aggressive tax avoidance schemes..... This and above issues are only because our tax system is far too complex and we have far too high tax rates. Do what I have said all along, reform the system to low, flat and simple taxes. Complaining about people doing what they can to protect their assets and making the system more complex will never solve the problem.
£90million, cost of MP's expenses. Actually if you take a close look at it we do get our parliament on the cheap. It is not such a huge sum when you look at what is covered. That is not to excuse the few who abuse the system of course.
Oh - I missed the payday loan companies. No defending them or their rates. But someone told me that they are an alternative for some to illegal loan sharks, at least these 'legal' companies do not break people's legs... People really should learn to budget instead, easier said than done though.
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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659,000 public sector job losses, far too few. Nowhere near what is needed to bring the public sector down to a reasonable and sustainable size. We can welcome the 700,000 plus private sector jobs created over the same period though.
Agree some what on this statement Barry,
But you forgot to say ,lots of these services could survive if commonness on contracts was renegotiated ,pensions
sick pay abuse , working hours and unaffordable perks .
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Barry, the 700.000+ jobs created over the period May 2010-November 2012 are not owing to the 659.000 public sector jobs that have been/will be axed.
All the time people leave jobs while others get employment, so the 700,000+ work places would have been assigned in the private sector even if Labour had been in government. They probably replace an equal number of people who left work.
The unemployment figures do not reflect a decrease of 700,000 since May 2010, but are more or less the same as they were then.
So one (public sector job losses) has pretty much nothing to do with the other (700,000+ private sector jobs).
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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errrr do some maths Alexander as you are contradictory. The unemployment figure you correctly say are much the same as May 2010, given the cut in public sector jobs they do very much reflect the similar compensating increase in private sector jobs. Incidentally - the 'employment age' population is not fixed so it is not a simple subtraction exercise.
The essential public sector job cuts do impact on the wider jobs market and many of these will be eminently employable compared to many of those on the unemployment register. The excessive levels of public sector employment crowds out the private sector and creates a demand for better motivated immigrant workers.
Keith - what you say is of course correct. A lot of public sector practises and perks need to change. Even so the public sector is far to large and needs trimming and also a lot of public sector functions can be dropped and the general public would not notice the difference. Government tries to do far too much and badly at that.
Incidentally - I include the secondary public sector in that, the nominally 'private sector' that are entirely dependent upon the public sector.